[CQ-Contest] Your Call? --> QSY?
Jukka Klemola
jpklemola at gmail.com
Mon Feb 29 11:05:10 EST 2016
There are multiops who are QRV on other bands.
Singleops usually say no to a QSY request.
Successful multiops typically welcome QSY requests.
The most successful say right away where they can QSY right or they propose
a sked.
It is good manners to try and give more QSOs in a contest.
73,
Jukka OH6LI
2016-02-27 15:40 GMT+02:00 ve4xt at mymts.net <ve4xt at mymts.net>:
> Wow. I'd never ask a station running to QSY, and certainly wouldn't be
> such a knob as to berate someone for not. I don't mind getting the question
> when I'm s&p, but I don't feel beholden to agree, even though I normally do.
>
> I was asked once while I was running, and while I wasn't doing SO2R, I did
> have another radio ready to go. So I told the guy to call me there. Kept an
> ear on his target frequency and kept running. Heard nothing on the target
> frequency. He came back to my run frequency and asked "Aren't you going to
> move?" I told him again, call me there, I'm listening. Nothing.
>
> Maybe it was just propagation, but I did hear others from his area on that
> second band. I suspect it was just a scam to usurp my run frequency.
>
> Steve, you weren't asking folks on their run frequency to chase you, were
> you? If so, I don't blame them for not.
>
> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Feb 26, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> >
> > I can't speak for any other little pistol or squirt gun out there, but
> over the years I've learned a bit of a distaste when someone asks me to QSY
> to another band.
> >
> >
> > I've had the request made on one of those rare times I have a run
> frequency going. If I've got people calling me, I'm not leaving. Worse,
> I've had people ask this, I would go and work the other band (and I don't
> always have propagation at the time), and on my return find that the
> station that asked me "as a courtesy" was now working my run frequency as
> his.
> >
> > When I'm doing S&P, again, I may not have propagation to that part of
> the world on the other band at that time. And I may have other reasons for
> not wanting to QSY at that time.
> >
> >
> > But the biggest reason I've come to dislike the requests... when (and
> this happens primarily on voice modes) I'm asked and I decline, the other
> guy starts giving me an argument. I'm in the middle of a run, I have a
> half-dozen people calling, and someone wants me to stop cold and discuss
> why I want to stay put, or don't want to go to another band right then and
> there?
> >
> >
> > Now, I don't mind if, while doing S&P, the op of a M/2 or M/M tells me
> that their other station is on, well, whatever frequency. Especially
> during the Sunday "doldrums". As long as they simply mention it. Again,
> though, when the other op demands to know why not... I mean, really. It's
> not like a W3 from PA is exactly rare, and I get that they'd like to
> maximize the number of Q's on each band.
> >
> >
> > So please don't take it personally if I don't QSY to another band.
> >
> >
> > 73, ron w3wn
> >
> > On 02/26/16, sbloom at acsalaska.net wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure changing the exchange is realistic (though man that *IS* a
> > great idea) ...but I will comment that I find it increasingly difficult
> > to communicate *anything* other than the contest exchange with most
> > folks. I always try to get guys late in the contest ..if/when things
> > are slow ..to QSY to other bands ..and I'm probably down to 1 or 2 in
> > 10 ...giving me any answer at all ..yes or no ...no matter how much I
> > QRS. Probably not much that can be done ..as code readers become more
> > popular ..but it does suck.
> >
> > 73
> > Steve KL7SB
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:09:21 -0500, Jeff Clarke wrote:
> >
> > A simple solution. Make the callsign part of the exchange like
> > SS. For example if I work P40W he would send KU8E P40W 5NN 5.
> >
> > There were several stations this past weekend in ARRL DX that wouldn't
> > even send their call until they weren't being called by anyone anymore.
> > Some others would work between 5-10 stations before they sent their
> > call.
> >
> > I blame alot of this problem on the dumbing down of DX contesting (and
> > DXing in general) caused by packet spotting. Most casual DX contesters
> > like SOA and just click on packet spots and work people. No skill
> > needed anymore to copy a call or have any knowledge about propagation
> > to know which band to be on to maximize your score. To me it's similar
> > to catching fish in a barrel. Those on the other end of the pileup know
> > this and this is why they don't ID frequently. It's very frustrating
> > for those who still like to be unassisted.
> >
> > It's obvious to me that many of these people also can't copy CW other
> > then their own call. I had a situation on 15 CW Sunday morning in ARRL
> > CW that I had a bunch of dupes that started calling me. Someone had
> > probably spotted my call wrong. It was amazing to me that many of those
> > that called were well known contest calls. They still called even
> > though I was sending my call every QSO. I checked the spots of my
> > callsign after the contest and that's exactly what happened. It wasn't
> > until someone spotted me with the comment "call correction" that the
> > dupes stopped.
> >
> > BTW, I'm not against SOA. I guess I'm just old fashioned because it's
> > just not challenging to me. I like to find stations and band openings
> > on my own. That's more thrilling to me. To each his own. If you get a
> > thrill from clicking on spots all weekend long, more power to you.
> >
> > Kudos to guys like K3WW and AA3B who have good stations, are great run
> > operators and they know how to interleave spots between their runs to
> > maximize their score.
> >
> > Jeff KU8E
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