[CQ-Contest] K5GO speaks out for youth in contesting

[David Gilbert]

You're entire reply essentially says that I'm talking apples and 
oranges.  And you're exactly right.  But those apples compete for 
attention with our oranges among youngsters, and the apples are going to 
win because of the reasons I laid out.

And it is exactly that radiosport is going to have to change if it 
intends to survive.  Again I point to the demographics that clearly 
prove my point.  Deny it if you want, but that's just more evidence of 
what's wrong.

73,
Dave   AB7E




On 3/25/2016 1:46 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
> On 23/03/2016 21:01, David Gilbert wrote:
>
>>
>> I enjoy contesting, but it's a legacy that isn't going to 
>> successfully compete for attention among anything beyond a very small 
>> percentage of today's youth.  Most of the young ops at Field Day or 
>> contest stations are only there because of some family connection, 
>> and most of those don't last.  Even the great majority of new hams 
>> the ARRL likes to tout as evidence of a growing base don't stick with 
>> the hobby ... if they did, we wouldn't be having these discussions.  
>> I do think that contesting is drawing a growing percentage of hams, 
>> but the base is getting old fast, and from my perspective here are 
>> some of the reasons:
>
> David is right, but also wrong - especially when he compares
> ham radio to the internet - that's an apples and oranges
> comparison.
>
>> 1.  Ham radio is expensive, especially of you actually want to be 
>> competitive instead of just participating.  Rigs and antennas cost 
>> far more than a decent computer or smart phone, both of which offer 
>> far more effective communication and opportunities for competition.
>
> "Expensive" applies to all competitive activities when you
> want to be competitive - to include time and money spent
> on diets, training, equipment, travelling and expenses.
>
>>
>> 2.  Ham radio requires antennas.  Theey are physically obtrusive and 
>> often create conflict with neighbors.  Hardly anybody has to fight to 
>> get connected to the internet.
>
> Apples and oranges.
>
>>
>> 3.  Ham radio is real time and unreliable, subject to the vagaries of 
>> propagation and activity on the other end.
>
> That's precisely what attracts us, and what distinguishes
> amateur radio from most other forms of communication.
>
>
> Why do some people still compete in sailboat racing,
> subject to the vagaries of wind, waves, tides and
> currents?  Because it's hard and they enjoy it - it's
> what gives the activity its name, sailboat racing.
>
>>   Applications like Twitter, Facebook, and online forums (like this 
>> one) are precise, dependable, and "sticky" (you can read and answer 
>> at your convenience).  Online game competition against real opponents 
>> from around the world is available around the clock every day with 
>> virtually no waiting.
>
> All hosted on the internet, a public worldwide communications
> utility and, for all intents and purposes, free.
>
>>
>> 4.  Ham radio requires a license, one which many of us perceive as 
>> relatively easy to get but which isn't needed at all for any other 
>> pursuit.  It's a roadblock with no particular advantage to the user 
>> ... it's not like it keeps LIDs off the air.
>
> Licences are required for many competitive pursuits,
> including some motor sports (on land, sea and air), and
> competition licences are required for some athletics
> events.
>
>>
>> 5.  Almost any video game out there is more immediate with more 
>> intense real time competition than ham radio contesting has.
>
> Apples and oranges - powerboat racing can be a lot more
> immediate and intense than sailboat racing.
>
>> I honestly hope that radiosport hangs around for a while ... 
>
> > I do too - it's fun for me and I have a lot of money invested in 
> it.  But it needs to change if it's actually going to draw new people 
> to the game.
>
> Does sailboat racing have to change?  If not, why not?
>
>
> > I've tried to come up with the idea of a contest format that would 
> capture some of the real time features of a video game, particularly 
> the ability to directly and immediately counter (either by action or 
> by score) the actions of another contester,
>
> Don't golfers (other than in matchplay) compete in
> isolation?  The all have access to real-time scoreboards,
> and we could have them too, although some contesters
> prefer others not to let others know how they're doing.
>
>>
>> Ham radio simply doesn't have the fascination for anybody today that 
>> it did for us ... and if we were young again in today's world it 
>> wouldn't for us either.
>
> Why then, some two hundred years after the introduction
> of mechanical propulsion, do some people insist on
> racing without it?  The answer is they do it for its
> own sake.
>
>>   If we want to change the demographics of our hobby, our hobby is 
>> going to have to change.  It's as simple as that.
>
> Sure - change is good so long as our hobby, amateur radio,
> doesn't change into another hobby.
>
> 73,
> Paul EI5DI
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>