[CQ-Contest] Convergence and Change

[Radio K0HB]

Sorry, Yuri, but "skimmer in my shack" is not OK.


On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 16:26 George via CQ-Contest <
cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:

> I must admin that I never thought about running a skimmer at my own
> QTH.  If I did, that would seem like I would be ASSISTED!
>
> I bet this starts up this discussion all over again, just when I thought
> it was dying out.
>
> 73, George, K5KG
>
> On 5/26/2016 11:38 AM, Yuri Blanarovich wrote:
> > Why is it so hard to accept and use sensible definitions of SO and SOA?
> >
> > SO - Single Operator - station operated by single, one, operator
> > without "ASSISTANCE" by SOMEONE ELSE via any means - be in the shack,
> > over internet, phone, ESP, whatever....
> > That means NOT someone/something else outside of own shack
> > is gathering info on call, frequency, etc. and communicating to Single
> > Operator. Technology in one's own shack is OK, own Skimmer at the QTH
> > is OK. Remote, outside of own QTH "suppliers of call/freq", persons or
> > gadgets are assistance by someone else - NOT OK!
> >
> > SAO - Single Operator Assisted - station operated by single, one,
> > operator with ASSISTANCE by Someone/Something Else outside of own
> > shack, via any means, providing Call/Frequency info.
> >
> > Normal people, SO, would do hunting on their own, with own rifle, find
> > the bear and "nail" him. Feels good!
> >
> > "Assisted" people SAO would have army of hunters, finding the bear,
> > kill him and then yell: "come, here is the bear, kill him!" Click,
> > gotcha!
> >
> > But Hams have a problem figuring what the ASSISTANCE is. Huge
> > discussions about - is the pencil, keyer, computer, etc. assistant?
> >
> > Personally, I would like to see the "assistance" by Internet go away
> > or be restricted to use. Just like DXing was ruined by nets, list,
> > contesting is being poisoned by Internet spoon feeding Call/Freq.
> > Instead of preserving pure hunting aspect, we get crazy pileups,
> > frequency hogging, unsportsman like behavior, hunting dead bears.
> >
> > Don't get me started on "rentastations" - hey, its me, in someone
> > else's skin!
> >
> > Have fun, whatever is left of it!
> >
> > 73 Yuri, K3BU.us
> > www.MVmanor.com
> > da place for conventions, weddings, concerts,...
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Jack Haverty wrote:
> >
> >
> >> So, I'd like to see a split of assisted versus unassisted based on
> >> those observations, with the following basic definitions:
> >>
> >> Unassisted - a station using technology, of any kind, to communicate
> >> using only ham radio waves.  All communication across the station
> >> boundary (building, 100-meter circle, whatever) must be performed
> >> using ham radio.  Within the station boundary, other forms of
> >> communication may be used.
> >>
> >> Assisted - a station using technology, of any kind, to communicate
> >> not only using radio waves, but also using other forms of
> >> communications across the station boundary for whatever purpose the
> >> operator wishes. All contact exchanges (whatever that means) must
> >> however be accomplished only by ham radio communications.
> >>
> >> In other words, Unassisted means you use only ham radio; assisted
> >> means you may use other forms of communications as well.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> /Jack de K3FIV
> >>
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> George Wagner, K5KG
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