[CQ-Contest] When it's over, it's over (again)

[Kelly Taylor]

Here’s another question for the masses:

I work WQ5L and log Ray as having a (fictitious, just guessing) check of 72, and later hear him giving out 73, is it OK to change? If I don’t completely copy his information during the Q but stick by his run frequency and copy it afterwards, is that OK?

You heard the fix during the contest, so it’s not a post-contest scrub. 

Is there anywhere in the rules that says you must get it right ONLY during the contiguous time of your contact with the station?

73, kelly, ve4xt 


> On Nov 10, 2016, at 9:39 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Kelly.
> 
> I would have no problem fixing a typo like N44ogw.   Looking at other information like ck or section and changing that would cross my line as well.
> 
> W0MU
> 
> 
> On 11/10/2016 7:30 AM, Kelly Taylor wrote:
>> I generally agree with the idea of not post-massaging when it's to find errors not noted during the contest.
>> 
>> But if I'm in a spirited run, notice a typo and do a CTRL-N to leave myself a note, my take is such a corrective note is fine to act upon after the contest. My take is the note is part of the log and was recorded during the contest period.
>> 
>> I do, however, think there's a massive gulf, ethically, between changing N44OGW to N4OGW and going, "Hmm, I see I logged him as in MI. I should check qth.com to make sure Tor's not in MS."
>> 
>> In the first instance, it's safe to say you got it right and merely typed it wrong. In the second, S is far enough away from I it's safe to say you got it wrong and deserve the bust.
>> 
>> If, in the days of paper logging, you felt fine with reviewing your log — which you had to do anyway for the dupesheet — to see that squiggly tilde-like scratch you wrote down looks more like an N or that "[" looks more like a C, or that ")" looks like a 7, is there really a problem with doing the same in the computer era? In both cases, are you not just clarifying what you intended to log?
>> 
>> If it wasn't a penmanship contest then, why is it a typing contest now?
>> 
>> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 20:01, Bob Kupps via CQ-Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> lol we send in our contest log without looking and to LOTW after the entry period ends. That's when I learned that I had forgotten to press 'enter' or something before moving to another band to work ZD8W and it got logged as a crossband QSO. And there will be other mistakes, especially with new ops, but accurate real-time logging is an integral part of the sport IMO too Art.73 Bob HS0ZIA
>>> 
>>>      From: Art Boyars <artboyars at gmail.com>
>>> To: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 3:59 AM
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] When it's over, it's over (again)
>>> 
>>> We all agree that we're not allowed to manipulate the log after the
>>> Contest... "except for obvious typos," some say.  I've always disagreed
>>> with that -- part of the job is to get the received info correctly into the
>>> log.
>>> 
>>> Just to show that I actually hold by this, I just sent in my SS CW log.  To
>>> relive the fun of the contest, I reviewed the Cabrillo log.  (Oh, how I
>>> miss the info-laden paper logs, with each multiplier marked and with the
>>> scratch-out corrections as visual reminders of the details of each QSO.)
>>> 
>>> In the Cabrillo log I noticed that one QSO with a QRP station shows
>>> received NR 3316.  Well, sometimes I bang on the keyboard too hard and I
>>> get an accidental double character.  "Obviously," that's a typo I could
>>> correct to NR 316.  But I didn't.  One busted QSO.
>>> 
>>> In another QSO, I noticed that I logged N44LF.  Gee, I don't remember
>>> working any N44's, but I do remember that N4LF was all over the place.
>>> "Obviously," another accidental double character from hitting the keyboard
>>> too hard.  And I didn't correct this one, either.  That's a busted QSO and
>>> a penalty for busted call sign.
>>> 
>>> So, my score will suffer a little. Every year my bad typing costs me points
>>> (and this year I used a new keyboard with unfamiliar software -- double
>>> trouble).  But I feel good about my attitude and my behavior.
>>> 
>>> And I hope I'll act the same if I'm ever in first place (fat chance) by a
>>> couple of QSOs.  Quoting my son, again: "If you don't use your conscience
>>> regularly, it won't work when you need it."
>>> 
>>> Learning that, and applying it, is one of the values of contesting.
>>> 
>>> 73, Art K3KU
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