[CQ-Contest] When it's over, it's over (again)

Igor Sokolov ua9cdc at gmail.com
Fri Nov 11 00:43:40 EST 2016

Not everybody is using N1MM+
Every contest I run into at least a dozen ops who send their own call sign 3 
times in 3 different ways leaving me to guess which one is correct. Two way 
qso is a result of team work of sender and receiver. Your statement  " 
Generally it is the receiver..." still leaves room for sender mistakes.

73, Igor UA9CDC
----- Исходное сообщение ----- 
От: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu at w0mu.com>
Кому: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Отправлено: 11 ноября 2016 г. 6:12
Тема: Re: [CQ-Contest] When it's over, it's over (again)

> In this case the patient is the one penalized...........:(
> How can I know what you copied unless you are saying that all exchanges 
> must be sent back and confirmed.  If so you might have a tough time 
> selling it.  People like to contest for the speed runs.  SS is loosing 
> traction because of the very long, read boring exchange unless you are 
> SO2R.
> Generally it is the receiver that blows the exchange.  I have yet to hear 
> N1MM+ screw up sending my memory info.
> On 11/10/2016 4:48 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
>> Ward,
>> Very interesting. But this approach begs  the question: If prescription 
>> finally got wrong (name of the medicine or dosage) who's fault is it? 
>> Transmitter or receiver? Should not both sides be penalized?
>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>> ----- Исходное сообщение ----- От: "Ward Silver" <hwardsil at gmail.com>
>> Кому: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Отправлено: 10 ноября 2016 г. 21:18
>> Тема: Re: [CQ-Contest] When it's over, it's over (again)
>>> > If it wasn't a penmanship contest then, why is it a typing contest
>>> now?
>>> At the risk of setting off a "plastic owl pointing true north by remote 
>>> control" thread...
>>> Why is it that we have contests at all?  It is to practice our ability 
>>> to communicate and to reward effectiveness - in whatever form that 
>>> takes. Part of it is knowing when the bands are open and closed.  Part 
>>> of it is assembling a station that works well.  Part of it is having 
>>> good operating technique.  And part of it is accurately transcribing the 
>>> exchanged information into whatever format is required.
>>> We are fond of claiming that contesting makes us good public service 
>>> operators and all that back-patting we do for ourselves.  Imagine we are 
>>> relaying orders for prescription medicines needed in a disaster area. 
>>> Is a typo in "hydrochlorothiazide" acceptable because we were in a 
>>> hurry? ("Can you give me that phonetically before the band closes?") Is 
>>> mistakenly changing a dosage of 50 mg to 500 mg OK because we hit 0 
>>> twice? ("Whoa - how did that huge hairy bat get in here?")  Of course 
>>> not...we would recognize that as an error and we should do so when N0AX 
>>> gets changed to N0XA.  Each unforced error needs to produce negative 
>>> feedback so we will work to lower our error rate.  The CQ WW 
>>> introduction of penalties for errors was exactly the right remedy for 
>>> sloppy operating because it provides both carrot and stick to operate at 
>>> a rate no faster than what optimizes effective operating.  Nothing is 
>>> error-free but a three-QSO penalty has a way of focusing the mind.
>>> At any rate (so to speak), anything noted during the period of 
>>> competition is fair game for log correction.  I would prefer in the long 
>>> term that QSOs are submitted in real-time and verified shortly 
>>> thereafter so that this whole notion of "log" goes away along with all 
>>> the misbehavior and delays it engenders, but in the mean time, 
>>> transcription into the submitted record of competition is as much a part 
>>> of the contest as transmitting the information in the first place.
>>> 73, Ward N0AX
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