[CQ-Contest] Packet killed single Op

Wed Nov 30 13:21:31 EST 2016

More than Maximum Fun with decent effort.
Plus some new technology.

I wonder when the first ham who cannot CW will be in North America top ten.

73,
Jukka OH6LI

2016-11-30 18:56 GMT+02:00 Mike Ritz <w7vo at comcast.net>:

> We had a separate mult station in our MS operation here, partially manned
> by a new ham that knew zero CW, but REALLY wanted to help out in the
> contest. Because of being able to click on N1MM+ bandmap spots, and also
> use a MFJ decoder for reading he was able to participate in the contest,
> when otherwise he wouldn't have. Because of that experience he has a keen
> interest to try and learn the code. Mission accomplished.
>
> It's not always about the points.
>
>
> 73;
> Mike, W7VO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Jukka Klemola" <jpklemola at gmail.com>
> To: "cq-contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:41:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Packet killed single Op
>
> For the people driving for maximum score, assisted offers a new challenge
> level.
> Maximum Score, maximum effort.
> Please note these people have a twist in their sense of Fun.
> Most people do not consider operating more than 38 hours a weekend an
> enjoyable and Fun event.
>
> For the people wanting to enjoy easy DX hunting, assisted offers maximum DX
> experience. Maximizing the Fun.
> Maximum Fun, decent effort.
> Please note, the sense of Fun differs between people.
> Some people consider operating old tube radios and paper logging with
> pencils the maximum Fun there once was and ever will be.
>
>
> 73,
> Jukka OH6LI
>
> 2016-11-30 5:13 GMT+02:00 Ed K1EP <k1ep.list at gmail.com>:
>
> > But not everyone on assisted (packet) is out to win. And not everyone on
> > assisted (packet) has SO2R. I think that there are far more of those out
> > there.
> >
> > On Nov 29, 2016 7:37 PM, "Jeff AC0C" <keepwalking188 at ac0c.com> wrote:
> >
> > You are right. Point and click. Going through the steps is simple.
> >
> > But you are wrong in that winning in the assisted format is a different
> > story. The other guy can go the the basic steps just as well as you can.
> > And he may have the same telnet feed info as you. So differences in
> > execution, band selection and timing are the details where the devil
> > resides.
> >
> > 73/jeff/ac0c
> > www.ac0c.com
> > alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Radio K0HB
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 9:33 AM
> > To: CQ-Contest ; Jukka Klemola
> >
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Packet killed single Op
> >
> > I've tried it.
> >
> > Point.
> >
> > Click.
> >
> > Fie Nigh Foe.
> >
> > Difficult indeed.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 08:56 Jukka Klemola <jpklemola at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Assisted is easy only to such guys who have not tried assisted.
> >>
> >> Assisted is much more difficult than classic.
> >> Very Much.
> >>
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Jukka OH6LI
> >>
> >> 2016-11-29 3:13 GMT+02:00 Bill via CQ-Contest <
> cq-contest at contesting.com
> >> >:
> >>
> >> > Assisted is not that easy for a competitive station. While you are
> >> > running on 14.030, you must time your CQs and replies to guys calling
> >> > you to the
> >> > guy who's CQing on 21025. You have to time your calls to the station
> >> > on
> >> > 21025, make the Q and send the exchange very quickly so you don't
> loose
> >> > your
> >> > run freq. it can be a challenge, even for big stations. It's true for
> >> CW
> >> > and SSB and just about all contests.
> >> >
> >> > Bill K4XS/KH7XS
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > In a message dated 11/29/2016 12:37:16 A.M. Coordinated Universal Ti,
> >> > artboyars at gmail.com writes:
> >> >
> >> > I've complained here repeatedly (ad nauseam, you might say) about how
> >> > "assisted" has changed single op. This year in SS, both CW and SSB, I
> >> > experienced it clearly. Several times I would find a nice juicy
> >> > multiplier
> >> > early in his operation, and I'd jump into the pile with my little
> >> signal.
> >> > If I got beaten more than twice, it was all over. The "spot" would go
> >> out,
> >> > all the HP point-and-clickers would jump in, and the pileup would >
> >> become
> >> > unmanageable. (A couple of times the rare mult CQer did hang in long
> >> > enough
> >> > for me to come back 20 or 30 minutes later and make a QSO.)
> >> >
> >> > The same effect happens with "new" non-mult QSOs, but I guess I don't
> >> > notice so much when I get packet-ed out of my umpteenth OH or SCV as
> >> when
> >> > I
> >> > miss the NL or SB or EWA that I found giving out number 4.
> >> >
> >> > Now, maybe you find "assisted" more fun than classic single op. That's
> >> OK,
> >> > and having that category reported in the Results is OK, too. But >
> >> PLEASE
> >> > don't think that the two categories should be merged. I do not know
> >> what
> >> > special skills are needed for "assisted", but they sure are nothing >
> >> like
> >> > the skills I developed for single op, especially Little Pistol. >
> >> (Having
> >> > the loudest signal in the pileup may be a worthy achievement, but I
> >> would
> >> > not call it an operating skill.)
> >> >
> >> > 73, Art K3KU
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