[CQ-Contest] RDXC Entry Reclassified to High Power
Pete Smith N4ZR
n4zr at contesting.com
Wed Oct 5 14:33:32 EDT 2016
I seem to recall that CQWW's ill-fated "onsite observer program" was
intended to address this issue of power cheating (among other kinds),
precisely because of the difficulty of determining what was going on.
That was a bust, of course, and died amid a lot of recrimination. I
don't see how such cheating can be definitively identified remotely,
short of doing what the FCC used to do and pull up in front of the
station with a field strength meter and then go knock on the door.
73, Pete N4ZR
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On 10/5/2016 12:12 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
> Kelly,
> I am saying that we should treat this case as a possibility to work
> out universally accepted methods of pinpointing power violators. That
> is if we want to keep power categories separate. And that is if we
> want to stop proliferation of cheating. RDXC made an attempt. Some
> people found their approach to be incorrect but nobody yet suggested
> no alternative.
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt at mymts.net>
> To: "Igor Sokolov" <ua9cdc at gmail.com>
> Cc: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 8:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RDXC Entry Reclassified to High Power
>
>
> Igor,
>
> Are you saying that just because we have not come up with a proven
> means to determine power cheating, we should merely accept the results
> of an irrefutably flawed analysis?
>
> Even the chief promoter and grand poobah of RBN technology has stated
> using RBN analysis to determine power cheating is absurd.
>
> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>
>> On Oct 5, 2016, at 8:51 AM, Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am not going to be on any side of the argument. But we all know
>> that power cheating exists and proliferates. It has become especially
>> acute after the introduction of the new WRTC selection rules which
>> allowed LP category compete against HP for the slot in WRTC.
>>
>> IMHO RDXC should be commended for pioneering the battle against power
>> violations even though their attempt is not fully approved by some.
>>
>> RDXC can be criticized for their approach but can critics offer other
>> reliable methods of fishing out power violators. I do not think that
>> a 100% reliable method exists.
>> Does it mean that contest community should not pay attention to power
>> violations? I do not think so. Otherwise, why have different power
>> categories in the rules when these rules cannot be enforced.
>>
>> The simple solution would be to drop separation by power and have all
>> the participants compete in one power category. But would such a
>> radical step be to the benefit of the contest community? Would it
>> increase participation? I think not.
>> Then why don't we as a community use this precedent and try to find a
>> solution? Let's work out methods of verification of power cheating
>> that would be acceptable by a majority of the participants. This will
>> be to the benefit of all the contest sponsors where power categories
>> exist.
>>
>> Disclaimer: I have no relation to RDXC committee and not competing
>> for slot in WRTC. I just like the art contesting and want make better.
>>
>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
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