[CQ-Contest] Appropriate wait time for contest results?

[DXer]

Hi Tom,

You are right, I have never been involved in post log processing.

Change is not easy to implement and/or accept. Not long ago people said 
that electronic log submission was unfair and/or would discourage 
participation.

As for the examples you list, they could be handled by pointing the 
participant to a web interface for log submission. I can't find it now, 
but there is at least one such web interface doing more or less what I'm 
suggesting. It would likely have to be augmented/modified/customized, 
but doable, I think.

It may sound a crazy idea today, but who knows in the future.

Thank you for the work you do with the QSO Party.

73 de Vince, VA3VF


On 2017-04-06 9:41 PM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
> From your comments, I gather you have never been involved in post
> contest log processing.
>
> Fair enough, but consider this:  I look after a QSO Party, and handle
> the post contest logs.  This is not a complaint - I am happy to do it,
> but it is interesting to see the post contest logs.  Some logs don't
> support my QSO Party, so folks choose "something close".  Some require
> repair work before I can proceed to the next step.  Some folks use
> old/odd software that "sorta" generates a Cabrillo spec output.  I
> hesitate to invalidate the efforts of a part-time entrant, lest they
> decide that next year - they simply won't bother.  Some must be from a
> spread sheet output.  The header is fine - the QSO lines are... odd, but
> contain all the info I need.
>
> I realize full well that this is MY choice - to repair the logs so they
> can proceed in the log checking process,  Yes - it takes time to correct
> these logs, and I am happy to do it.
>
> Consider the option you seem to advocate:  "Dear contester:  your log is
> not in a valid format.  Bzzt.  You are disqualified.  Please update your
> logging software, and please try again next year.  Signed - contest
> manager".  THAT would be a heartbreaking email to receive from a contest
> manager...  *I* would not want to be the author of one.
>
> So - it may take an extra week or three while repair work is done -
> behind the scenes, silently, without comment, but it sure beats the
> alternative!
>
>
> Tom - VE3CX
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 9:32 AM, DXer <hfdxmonitor at gmail.com
> <mailto:hfdxmonitor at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I agree, it's unreasonable to expect log submission within 24 hours,
>     not only for the reason mentioned, but also to give participants some
>     breathing time after the contest. This way they can review the log,
>     and deal with any issue that would cause the CC to spend time
>     correcting errors on participants behalf.
>
>     That said, I think the CC should not get involved with correcting any
>     submission errors. I see it as part of the participants responsibility
>     to submit a log that is error free. In this case, final results after
>     a month or two may be possible.
>
>     Nothing above is to compromise compliance with the contest rules, such
>     as any form of cheating attempt. I'm talking strictly about the time
>     the CC spends fixing 'benign' issues.
>
>     73 de Vince, VA3VF
>
>     On Wed,4/5/2017 5:37 AM, Barry wrote:
>
>     >* I think logs should be submitted within 24h of the end of the contest
>     *>* and results should be available a month later.
>     *
>     That is unreasonable for an operation that travels to a remote location
>     without internet access.
>
>     73, Jim K9YC
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