[CQ-Contest] CQWW LCR's and log scrubbing

[Kelly Taylor]

(This is directed at the thread, not to counter anything written by K3ZJ)

The X-QSO tool is a sound practice of correcting for brain cramps. I do not believe anyone would want a big multi-op station’s entire weekend ruined by inadvertently screwing up the 10-minute rule or misjudging when to get back on after a mandated break period. X-QSO allows for that, as you are not claiming credit for QSOs made in violation.

Golf is one of the most-scrutinized ‘honor’ sports there is, to the point viewers on TV can even spot violations and notify organizers by email. However, even if such violations prove true, the golfer’s entire tournament is not necessarily lost: a penalty is applied for failing to claim a stroke and a further penalty is claimed for filing a false scorecard.

However, if the golfer identifies the violation and records the appropriate penalty before submitting the scorecard, all is good. This can happen at ANY TIME before submitting the card — at the time of the violation or after holing out the 18th. Either way, the score still counts, even if failing to record a penalty carries very punitive consequences.

Is the X-QSO not the same as saying, “Hey, I moved that ball before striking it, so I’m taking the penalty stroke.”?

The scenario raised features an unassisted op working a bunch of packet spots and then marking each as X-QSO. This is interesting, but I don’t see the point, since X-QSO means the QSOs don't count at all: you don’t get the QSO points nor do you get the multipliers. It’s in the log so the people you worked don’t pay for your mistake, but you gain no benefit from the QSOs.


73, kelly, ve4xt 



> On Apr 12, 2017, at 6:13 AM, David Siddall <hhamwv at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> To be clear in context and for *most* contests, for mono band (single band)
> entries, there is no need to use the "X-QSO" function for QSOs on a
> different band. Assuming that your single band category is correctly
> identified in the cabrillo file, all QSOs on a different band (1) will be
> disregarded for purposes of your submission but (2) counted for the
> correspondent station.  The "X-QSO" function is to remove QSOs from your
> score within your category that otherwise would be included.
> 
> 73, Dave K3ZJ
> 
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:40 AM, Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd at charter.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> This will depend on the contest.  For CQWW, the other station should
>> receive
>> credit for the QSO.
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Peter Voelpel [mailto:dj7ww at t-online.de]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 10:38 AM
>>> To: k5zd at charter.net
>>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] CQWW LCR's and log scrubbing
>>> 
>>> Hi Randy,
>>> 
>>> What happens to the other station?
>>> 
>>> I had two QSOs in CQWW 2016 marked with X on a different band while doing
>>> mono band.
>>> Both qsos are listed under "Stations Receiving Not In Log From DJ7WW".
>>> Their public logs show them both.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Randy Thompson K5ZD
>>> Sent: Mittwoch, 12. April 2017 12:19
>>> To: john at kk9a.com; cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW LCR's and log scrubbing
>>> 
>>> The Cabrillo specification does allow for this.  See
>>> https://wwrof.org/cabrillo/cabrillo-specification-v3/
>>> 
>>> X-QSO: qso-data
>>> Any QSO marked with this tag will be ignored in your log. Use to mark
>>> QSOs made that you do not want to count toward your score.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This tag was created to give people a way to mark a QSO as not counting
>>> and not have to remove it from their log.
>>> 
>>> Note: Not every contest may accept this tag, but it is recognized by the
>>> major contests.
>>> 
>>> Randy, K5ZD
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf
>>>> Of john at kk9a.com
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 2:45 AM
>>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW LCR's and log scrubbing
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a way to have some unclaimed QSOs in a cabrillo file?
>>>> 
>>>> John KK9A
>>>> 
>>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>>> Subject:    Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW LCR's and log scrubbing
>>>> From:       "Dick Green WC1M"
>>>> Date:       Tue, 11 Apr 2017 15:31:33 -0400
>>>> 
>>>> I was advised to do that by K3EST for the 8P8P CQ WW SSB M/S log when
>>>> we discovered that a bug in our logging software caused us to make a
>>>> significant number of QSOs outside the 10-minute window. This was back
>>>> in the days when log scrubbing wasn't as strongly discouraged as it is
>>> now.
>>>> I don't know what the CQ WW CC would advise today.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Dick WC1M
>> 
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