[CQ-Contest] Self-spotting explanation from CQWW blog

W0MU Mike Fatchett w0mu at w0mu.com
Mon Apr 17 15:14:55 EDT 2017


N1MM allows spotting while in S&P mode.  This works great until you 
forget to switch over and then you end up spotting all the people you 
are working on your run frequency.  I did this by accident a couple of 
times and It was brought to my attention. This issue is do you trust the 
person that says I am just sending spots to really be sending spots.  At 
this stage there are so many ways to receive spots anonymously that it 
becomes impossible to know for certain if a station is really "clean".  
You do the best you can and live with results and try to get better with 
tools to identify those breaking the rules.

W0MU

On 4/17/2017 12:52 PM, Barry wrote:
> And I don't know if N1MM or the other Windows contest loggers offers 
> it, but CT offered the ability to send spots without receiving them.
>
> Barry W2UP
>
> On 4/17/2017 09:10, Steve London wrote:
>> Just because you have internet connectivity does not mean you are 
>> using it to receive spots. There are commands on every DX cluster for 
>> disabling receipt of spots. For example, on an AR-node, 
>> "set/dx/output off". This way, you can send self-spots (or any spots) 
>> without receiving spots.
>>
>> 73,
>> Steve, N2IC
>>
>> On 04/17/2017 07:47 AM, Rich Assarabowski wrote:
>>> Mark:
>>>
>>> Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of keeping the single-op category, 
>>> always have been.    But prohibiting self-spotting in single-op 
>>> unassisted means these enforcement issues will continue to hound us 
>>> ...    And if the rules are changed to allow self-spotting, how does 
>>> one self-spot in single-op without the Internet?
>>>
>>> That was my point.
>>>
>>> --- Rich K1CC
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: MARK BAILEY [mailto:kd4d at comcast.net]
>>> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 9:05 AM
>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com; Rich Assarabowski
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Self-spotting explanation from CQWW blog
>>>
>>> Hi Rich:
>>>
>>> I do not agree that forcing everyone who wants to compete onto the 
>>> internet ("nail in the coffin for the single operator categories") 
>>> is the right answer - I think we should retain single-operator 
>>> categories.
>>>
>>> Clearly, the assisted and multi-operator categories will continue to 
>>> move more and more on to the internet (self-spotting, social media, 
>>> etc.).  There should continue to be single operator categories for 
>>> the luddites like me who want the option to play on the radio - and 
>>> these categories should prohibit self-spotting.
>>>
>>> There may be cheating that cannot be detected, similar to the 
>>> situation with power cheating and remote receivers, but that is not 
>>> a sufficient reason to eliminate categories. Otherwise, we end up 
>>> with a single category: "anything goes".
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Mark, KD4D
>>>
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