[CQ-Contest] Self-spotting explanation from CQWW blog

DXer hfdxmonitor at gmail.com
Mon Apr 17 15:20:54 EDT 2017


Hi Kelly,

> Very simple: unassisted means you can't receive spots, not that you can't send them.

Ok...I thought it applied both ways. That's a problem right there, I 
think. Half-duplex assisted or unassisted.

> Self-spotting restrictions aren't limited to unassisted, they apply to all.

Yes...my previous message was about self-spotting being allowed for all 
assisted participants. It's about 'big' assistance, and the eventual 
demise of the cluster. :^))

73 de Vince, VA3VF

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> 73, kelly, ve4xt
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>> On Apr 17, 2017, at 13:32, DXer <hfdxmonitor at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Kelly,
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>> My message was not clear on what I was commenting. I meant the act of self-spotting, not skimmer. Although skimmer could be considered 'passive' self-spotting, I guess.
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>> If you are unassisted, why is self-spotting even considered? It should not even be possible, or you are not unassisted.
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>> 73 de Vince, VA3VF
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>>>> On 2017-04-17 2:23 PM, Kelly Taylor wrote:
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>>>> Again, if the decision was to participate in the unassisted category, why is self-spotting or not an issue. Unassisted means no access to the benefits of spotting, sent or received, self or otherwise.
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>>> Not quite: you have no control over whether someone unrelated to your operation (or on CW, Skimmer) spots you, so your being spotted in that way doesn't affect your unassisted status. If it were otherwise, there could be zero, or very few, who still qualify as unassisted at contest end. Nearly everyone gets spotted.
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>>> It's when you or your designate spots you in an effort to boost your score does it become a rules issue.
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>>> 73, kelly, ve4xt
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>>>> As for internet access or not, I believe the RF based cluster still exist in some places. It may not be as common as in years past, but if available, it cannot be ignored by the rules.
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>>>> 73 de Vince, VA3VF
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