[CQ-Contest] Out of band CQWW SSB

[Oliver Dröse]

Scott,

are you saying you removed all the split contacts of Europeans on 40 m?

All the loggers I know do report the RX frequency in the Cabrillo file! 
To give you an example:

QSO:  7215 PH 2016-10-29 0719 DH8BQA        59  14     V47T          59  08

That was a perfectly legal QSO with V47T transmitting on 7214,5 and listening for Europeans on 7070 were I called/worked him.

Just checked V47T's log and obviously they reported their TX frequency even for the split QSOs. That will make it difficult for you to judge, of course, but just deleting all the QSOs reported in the logs "out of band" at least on 80 & 40 m is not the right way!

How did you handle things if frequencies were reported differently? To give you an example with both stations logging their RX frequencies:

QSO:  7207 PH 2016-10-29 0716 DH8BQA        59  14     W1NA          59  05
QSO:  7075 PH 2016-10-29 0717 W1NA          59  5      DH8BQA        59  14

Another perfectly legal split QSO. Would you delete it from my log because I reported 7207 (my RX frequency as automatically exported as such from N1MMLogger)? What would you do in W1NA's log?

Thanks & 73, Olli - DH8BQA
(a little late to this discussion, sorry ;-))

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Am 19.04.2017 um 18:57 schrieb Scott Robbins via CQ-Contest:
> It's not only the United States.  Numerous Europeans and others made contacts out of band on 40m during the contest as well.  There was the option to disqualify everyone who made even a single out of band contact from the United States or Europe.  This did not happen.
> If you submitted a log that said you made a contact out of band and you reported the frequency accurately in the log as such, we took the position that you have made an error in violation of the rules *that has been reported truthfully*.  Those contacts were removed from your score.  It is at our discretion to decide this - it's codified in the rules in section XII. D.
> If you changed the frequency in your log in an attempt to hide that you made an out of band contact, now we have a problem that has to be delved into further.  That's the kind of behavior we are trying to stop.
> Scott RobbinsW4PA
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:53 AM, ve4xt at mymts.net <ve4xt at mymts.net> wrote:
>
>> If there is, as apparently there is, evidence of multiple incursions by US
>> stations into forbidden band segments, in violation of US law, why zero DQs?
>>
>> Why isn't the law-and-order contingent clamouring for justice? If the
>> message is "break the rules and you'll be DQd," isn't US federal law a
>> significant rule Americans should be expected to obey?
>>
>> Especially since many, it seems, persisted in completing the Q after
>> having been warned they were out of band. I can see if a station does it
>> once, and isn't warned. Hard to claim brain cramp if it's repeated, or is
>> done after a warning.
>>
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