[CQ-Contest] NAQP CW this weekend

[Rudy Bakalov]

Victor,

First and foremost thank you for promoting and developing the concept of online scoreboards. Even though they have been around for a while they have not been actively promoted. Personally, I have found them fun, motivating, and quite effective in attracting kids to contesting.

IMHO, and as your own poll data shows, the level of details should be a personal choice, not your choice. By making the decision yourself you are inserting yourself in the endless debate of what assistance means. You really don't want to be in this business and subject yourself to constant criticism.

Rudy N2WQ

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> On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:53 PM, Victor Androsov <victor.androsov at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Randy,
> 
> As you know we are always trying to follow HAM community. Before make a
> decision we've opened a poll about bands breakdown view on a score board.
> You can see this poll results here : https://contestonlinescore.com/poll.png.
> We've also contacted some  NAQP guys and got their opinion.
> 
> Since more than 50% of voters wish to limit breakdown view by one or
> another way we decided to disable that option for NAQP CW in kind of trial
> mode. Honestly I think we've chosen the right way since I've never seen so
> many single ops on any score boards before as it was during  NAQPC CW. I
> believe many of them joined to a live score board for the first time. )) So
> we are going to keep this limitation for the next NAQP SSB and probably for
> the CQ WW RTTY/SSB/CW as well.
> 
> Anyway, if majority of operators would convince us to remove that
> limitation we could easily do that. We still collect all the breakdowns
> data but suspend publishing it on the board if that particular contest
> configured to disable breakdown view. We are always opened for any
> suggestions and feedbacks ))
> 
> 
> 73!
> 
> 
> Victor
> 
> VA2WA
> 
>> On 6 August 2017 at 23:35, Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd at charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not understand why you feel an obligation to remove features from the
>> scoreboard to prevent an entry being considered as "assisted."
>> 
>> From the NAQP rules:
>> 
>> "Access to spotting information
>> obtained directly or indirectly
>> from any source other than the
>> station operator, such as from
>> other stations or automated
>> tools, is prohibited."
>> 
>> 
>> There is no definition as to the meaning of "spotting information."  When
>> we
>> look at the general ARRL contest rules and at the CQ contests, the concept
>> of spotting information generally includes callsign, frequency, and time.
>> The scoreboard provides none of these.
>> 
>> I found use of the scoreboard to be very enjoyable during NAQP CW.  It
>> definitely helped me stay on the air and make more QSOs than I had planned
>> or would have given the conditions.
>> 
>> The scoreboard should include all features.  If someone doesn't want to
>> contribute their band information, they can choose not to do so in their
>> logger.  If they feel looking at the band info changes their category, they
>> should choose not to click on the link that takes them to that info.
>> 
>> 
>> Randy, K5ZD
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Victor Androsov
>>> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 2:46 PM
>>> To: cq-contest
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAQP CW this weekend
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This weekend we expect good activity on the score board (
>>> https://contestonlinescore.com )  since we have disabled breakdown info
>>> for the NAQP contests. We think that would be safe now for single ops.
>>> Using of online score board during the contest will not be considered as
>>> undeclared assistance.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please register and start configuring your loggers before the contest so
>>> we could have enough time to assist you with the logger settings in case
>>> of some issues.
>>> 
>>> 73!
>>> 
>>> Victor
>>> 
>>> VA2WA
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