[CQ-Contest] NAQP CW this weekend

[Randy Thompson K5ZD]

I understand, although I don't think such an unscientific survey should
drive the decision...

My request (suggestion) is that you make the breakdowns available.  Leave it
up to the individual ops whether they look at them or not.

You have a login and some properties that each user can set.  Why not make
displaying breakdowns a selectable property?  You can have it off by default
(and for the public view), but allow users to enable when they are logged
in.

For CQWW, the scoreboard at cqcontest.net is more active so we do have a
choice.

Randy, K5ZD


> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Victor Androsov
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 2:54 AM
> To: k5zd at charter.net; cq-contest
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP CW this weekend
> 
> Randy,
> 
> As you know we are always trying to follow HAM community. Before make a
> decision we've opened a poll about bands breakdown view on a score board.
> You can see this poll results here :
> https://contestonlinescore.com/poll.png.
> We've also contacted some  NAQP guys and got their opinion.
> 
> Since more than 50% of voters wish to limit breakdown view by one or
> another way we decided to disable that option for NAQP CW in kind of
> trial mode. Honestly I think we've chosen the right way since I've never
> seen so many single ops on any score boards before as it was during
> NAQPC CW. I believe many of them joined to a live score board for the
> first time. )) So we are going to keep this limitation for the next NAQP
> SSB and probably for the CQ WW RTTY/SSB/CW as well.
> 
> Anyway, if majority of operators would convince us to remove that
> limitation we could easily do that. We still collect all the breakdowns
> data but suspend publishing it on the board if that particular contest
> configured to disable breakdown view. We are always opened for any
> suggestions and feedbacks ))
> 
> 
> 73!
> 
> 
> Victor
> 
> VA2WA
> 
> On 6 August 2017 at 23:35, Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> > I do not understand why you feel an obligation to remove features from
> > the scoreboard to prevent an entry being considered as "assisted."
> >
> > From the NAQP rules:
> >
> > "Access to spotting information
> > obtained directly or indirectly
> > from any source other than the
> > station operator, such as from
> > other stations or automated
> > tools, is prohibited."
> >
> >
> > There is no definition as to the meaning of "spotting information."
> > When we look at the general ARRL contest rules and at the CQ contests,
> > the concept of spotting information generally includes callsign,
> > frequency, and time.
> > The scoreboard provides none of these.
> >
> > I found use of the scoreboard to be very enjoyable during NAQP CW.  It
> > definitely helped me stay on the air and make more QSOs than I had
> > planned or would have given the conditions.
> >
> > The scoreboard should include all features.  If someone doesn't want
> > to contribute their band information, they can choose not to do so in
> > their logger.  If they feel looking at the band info changes their
> > category, they should choose not to click on the link that takes them
> to that info.
> >
> >
> > Randy, K5ZD
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Victor Androsov
> > > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 2:46 PM
> > > To: cq-contest
> > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] NAQP CW this weekend
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > >
> > > This weekend we expect good activity on the score board (
> > > https://contestonlinescore.com )  since we have disabled breakdown
> > > info for the NAQP contests. We think that would be safe now for
> single ops.
> > > Using of online score board during the contest will not be
> > > considered as undeclared assistance.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please register and start configuring your loggers before the
> > > contest so we could have enough time to assist you with the logger
> > > settings in case of some issues.
> > >
> > > 73!
> > >
> > > Victor
> > >
> > > VA2WA
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