[CQ-Contest] SO2R vs SO1R

[Ed Sawyer]

Its no different than a race car driver or a sailor.  Great talent in a poor vehicle will lose most times to very good talent in a great vehicle.  True competitors find a way to get themselves into the great vehicles - one way or another.  C'est la vie!  Radiosport is not immune from life.

Ed  N1UR

-----Original Message-----
From: Ria Jairam [mailto:rjairam at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 10:02 AM
To: sawyered at earthlink.net
Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R vs SO1R

Nobody's "beating up" on East Coast stations as I am one myself.

The idea though is that it's not an even game of skills at all, and other advantages shouldn't be simply dismissed.

Ria, N2RJ

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
> I know we all like to beat up on East Coast stations.  I thought that SS, NAQP, Sprint, 10M were of interest to the group.  No East Coast advantage there - in fact its "almost" fatal to be on the East Coast for those contests, especially the North East.

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> I don't know why "contest opinion" is so DX Contest centric on this reflector.  It should bother people that are more interested in domestic contests, but doesn't seem to.
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> Ed  N1UR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ria Jairam [mailto:rjairam at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 9:41 AM
> To: sawyered at earthlink.net
> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R vs SO1R
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> The original statement said:
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> "I don't support the notion we should create new categories just because some folks have developed a skill the rest of us choose not to."
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> Let's be honest with ourselves. This is NOT simply and only a question of skills. It is absolutely a question of station in addition to skills. There's absolutely 100% no denying of this.
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> This pretty much mirrors the debate over assisted vs unassisted, or even in-band dual CQ which was banned by ARRL and CQ. It takes skill to use the cluster. It also takes skill to dual CQ in band. But a very important consideration is having the station to do it.
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> Think of it - are all of the stations on the East Coast that place in the top 10, somehow more skilled than those in the rest of the country because they place in the top 10? Of course not. What about those with wire antennas only? Are they less skilled? I doubt it. There are many factors at play, but to dismiss it as simply and only a question of skills is deception intended to shut down debate over whether SO2R should be considered separately.
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> And for the record, I do not think that SO2R in the official results should be considered separately from SO1R. Single op refers to  the person behind the station, not the number of radios.
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> Ria, N2RJ
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>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>
>> “Hmm. I do know that 2 towers, filtering, 2 radios and 2 amps is 
>> double the cost... And for most the barrier isn't skill, it's cost.”
>> N2RJ
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>> Why stop there?  1 competitive radio with a competitive tower and 
>> antennas and the land to put it on with a relatively low noise floor 
>> can be a BIGGER cost impediment than adding a second radio and tower 
>> to an already competitive location.
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>> To be competitive in this sport, you need a very good to great 
>> location that can support at least a big tower/antennas with a 
>> relatively low noise floor – SO1R/SO2R/SOXR/ 
>> Assisited/Unassited/MS/M2/MM it doesn’t matter.  It’s the cost of 
>> entry at the competitive level.  To then say adding SO2R is somehow the cost barrier is naïve.
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>> Ed  N1UR
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>> PS – I literally picked my homesite with competitive radio contesting 
>> in mind.  One, 2, or 3 towers after that was about time and 
>> maintenance hassle, not about money.
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