[CQ-Contest] Spotting - not

Tue Feb 21 18:54:09 EST 2017

Why would I filter spots?  I let N1MM filter them on the bandmap and 
grey them out.  I want to know where all the DX stations are that I may 
or may not be able to hear so that I can pick my CQ frequency that 
interferes the least with other competitors.

Spot please.

W0MU

On 2/21/2017 3:21 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
> My point was Spot.   Agree on your points.
> YT is very rare outside of NA.  Yet, one manual spot during ARRL DX.CW.
>
> Gerry W1VE
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Barry Merrill <w5gn at mxg.com> wrote:
>
>> What is the value of a VY1 spot FROM TEXAS in a contest
>> in which YOU CAN'T WORK TEXAS?
>>
>> Don't you think DX stations in ARRL DX would filter any
>> spots FROM the USA or CANADA, since they are not even
>> useful for propagation information, let alone a Q.
>>
>>
>>
>> Barry, W5GN
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Gerry Hull
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 8:54 AM
>> To: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>; CQ-Contest
>> <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Spotting - not
>>
>> Agree on all, Ron, 100%
>>
>> We, as the "OTs", must teach new contesters SKILZ (as they call them).
>>
>> As I see it, RBN is "easy", so why not use it?  This is what is happening
>> to
>> contesting.
>>
>> I was very frustrated, and have been in the past, operating from rare
>> VY1AAA.  Our team lit up the USA Skimmers like wild fire -- Lots of KBs, 73
>> and 599s sent from US stations we could not work in the contest.  Yet, NONE
>> of them spotted us.  Remember, spotting is for the benefit of all.
>> Certainly, you are not  hurting yourself if you spot VY1AAA, since we are
>> not competing in the same category.
>>
>> As a believer in RBN, I still tuned the band a lot this weekend, and worked
>> many 229 Euro mults which I ONLY found by actually tuning the dial.
>>
>> All methods are important.
>>
>> 73, Gerry W1VE
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My guys & I found quite a few stations that the N1MM bandpass map
>>> wasn't showing and that were not popping up on VE7CC.  Especially on
>>> Sunday afternoon.
>>>
>>> RBN may be here to stay, and for those operating Assisted/Unlimited or
>>> Multi-Op stations, it is certainly has a benefit.
>>>
>>> But with all due respect, no one should rely too heavily on the
>> technology.
>>> If you do, you risk missing out on stations (and mults) that aren't,
>>> for any of a number of reasons, been detected (or at least, yet)
>>>
>>> 73, ron w3wn
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Matt Murphy
>>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 9:41 PM
>>> To: CQ-Contest; Edward Sawyer; w1ve at yccc.org
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Spotting - not
>>>
>>> I think RBN was very bogged down on Saturday night. Spots were taking
>>> 30+ minutes to appear.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Matt NQ6N
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 8:20 PM Gerry Hull <gerry at yccc.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> KE1J was very active from K2LE in Vermont.
>>>>
>>>> In CW contesting, the need to spot has virtually been eliminated by
>>>> the RBN.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, if you are not looking at RBN spots, you are at a
>> disadvantage.
>>>> This has a detrimental effect on SSB, as it is not automated.
>>>>
>>>> However, for Assisted operating in the real world, RBN is here to stay.
>>>>
>>>> RBN hurt us at VY1AAA, as we were not manually spotted much, and
>>>> prop, especially in Europe, was not so hot, so we were not picked up by
>> RBN.
>>>> The is game in CW contesting now.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Gerry W1VE
>>>> One of the VY1AAA Gang
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Apparently, no one wants to spot any more.  They think that
>>>>> everyone is using skimmer so what's the point?  I decided to make
>>>>> some notes this
>>>> time
>>>>> in ARRL DX.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -          When did I start CQing on 80, 40, 20, 15?
>>>>>
>>>>> -          When did I get spotted?
>>>>>
>>>>> -          Did I notice any big burst of calls?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I compared those notes with a look at the DX Summit to see how the
>>>>> spots compared.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep in mind that I was likely the ONLY Vermont station CQing for
>>>>> many if not most of the time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I found that in MANY cases - I was running for more than an hour,
>>>>> in some cases, close to 2 hours! Before being spotted.  Worked 100
>>>>> -
>>>>> 300 stations before being spotted.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I also had a very direct correlation of a noticeable burst of
>>>>> activity
>>>> when
>>>>> spotted.  That means that there was a noticeable group of people
>>>>> not
>>>> using
>>>>> skimmer that were assisted.  Why don't those people spot?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you run assisted, what is your comment?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed  N1UR
>>>>>
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