[CQ-Contest] 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC

Stan Stockton wa5rtg at gmail.com
Fri Feb 24 17:30:32 EST 2017

Yes.  This is what I wrote about a year and a half ago:

2015-10-28 4:06 GMT+01:00 Stan Stockton <wa5rtg at gmail.com>:
There should be a rule allowing the software to automatically submit a self spot after you have logged perhaps three QSOs on the same frequency - same rule for everyone. After all, when you call CQ on CW you are, in effect, self spotting. There is a huge advantage in being spotted and, on SSB, there is a huge difference in the number of spots for different stations giving advantage to those who are spotted frequently and quickly after a frequency change. 73... Stan, K5GO

> On Feb 24, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Steve London <n2icarrl at gmail.com> wrote:
> On CW, we already have the equivalent of self spotting, thanks to CW Skimmer and the RBN. It's virtually impossible to NOT be spotted. CW Skimmer/RBN is the great equalizer - you no longer have to depend on a network of friends to spot you.
> We wouldn't be having this discussion if there was a SSB Skimmer. Right now, we have a system where "those with the right friends" have an advantage. Why not simply allow self spotting on SSB ?
> 73,
> Steve, N2IC
>> On 02/22/2017 12:22 PM, Bob Henderson wrote:
>> Having myself met with unfair and unjustified treatment at the hands of
>> RDXC adjudicators I can empathise with those claiming unfair treatment in
>> adjudication.  However in this case having looked at the information
>> supplied and done a little further digging, I am unsure my empathy is
>> justified.
>> 3V8SS it seems acknowledges cheer-leading by his fellow Tunisians KG5OUE
>> and F4HJD but claims not to have encouraged it.  I am inclined to believe
>> him, given some of my own friends have spotted me during contests and I
>> have NEVER, that is NOT EVER, asked anyone to do so.
>> That said, HB9EOU appears to be rather more than a random contact with
>> Switzerland.  Last year HB9EOU operated in the IOTA contest from 3V8SM on
>> Djerba Island AF-083 along with F4HJD.  Ash (3V8SS) + F4HJD + 3V8CB had
>> activated 3V8SM from Djerba Island a couple of months earlier.
>> The recording of the contact with HB9EOU seems odd, though the events not
>> entirely inexplicable but small circles in which the same calls crop up
>> repetitively raise questions.  Perhaps it's all an extraordinary
>> coincidence but there is enough doubt for me to wonder whether my empathy
>> might have been misplaced.
>> Bob, 5B4AGN
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:48:33 -0600
>> From: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra at sasktel.net>
>> To: "'Ashraf Chaabane'" <ash.kf5eyy at gmail.com>, "'cq-contest'"
>>         <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and
>>         WRTC
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>> After reading your post and based on your response to the committee, I would
>> conclude that Bob, W5OV; Doug, KR2Q; Scott, W4PA are nitpickers with an
>> agenda.
>> If anything valid is further introduced to support the committee's decision,
>> then I would revise my opinion. As it stands, I believe you were unfairly
>> DQd.
>> Doug
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Ashraf Chaabane
>> Sent: February-22-17 7:34 AM
>> To: cq-contest
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC
>> Mike, Ria and all,
>> I put online the CC accusations (their native emails) and my responses:
>> http://www.kf5eyy.info/3V8SS_WWSSB16_DQ.htm
>> I think that allows everyone to read from both sides. Now it's up to you to
>> comment!
>> 73
>> --
>> Ash ~ 3V8SS/KF5EYY
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