[CQ-Contest] Ea8's banned from RBN? Hmmm

[Martin Monsalvo - LU5DX]

Hola Juan:
Nothing is fair in contesting.
Privileged locations
Technology abuse
Excessive power
Ghost ops
Remote receivers.
As I always say, fortunately for us, contesting is made possible because of the thousands of honest people. Mostly casual entrants.
The herd of very competitive nuts is what's ruining our hobby.

73,
Martin LU5DX

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En feb 28, 2017 12:18 p. m., en 12:18 p. m., Juan Hidalgo EA8RM <ea8cac at gmail.com> escribió:
>Hello Mike:
>
>
>What happens if LPL system spot all NA stations and not V31MU when
>you're there???  
>Will be you happy with that ? 
>
>Or imagine that the system don't spot PR stations (common dxcc) and
>just spot you every 10 min (uncommon dxcc( , both in NA. it's that's
>fair ? 
>
>That what I mean Mike 
>
>It looks CQoIP !! 
>
>73 de EA8RM 
>
>Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
>> El 28 feb 2017, a las 14:03, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com>
>escribió:
>> 
>> LPL has created a tool that does something different.  It is what it
>is.  When that system first came about many Cluster owners decided to
>ignore those spots until the system was refined better.  EA8's are
>spotted just fine.  LPL does not sponsor and run contests.  It is just
>one tool that appears to be created for DXers.
>> 
>> There is nothing stopping someone else from creating a tool that does
>something else is there?
>> 
>> The LPL system is dumped into the regular cluster system so what
>exactly is the problem?  There is no secret gateway to LPL spots that
>only certain contesters use etc.  Smart folks will connect to many
>different clusters to make sure they get the spot as soon as possible
>to avoid packet pileups.
>> 
>> There are plenty of tools out there to be used.  Pick the ones that
>work for you.  Not being spotting on LPL's system is a non issue.
>> 
>> W0MU
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/28/2017 7:07 AM, Eric M. Guzman, P.E. wrote:
>>> Mike, please allow me to jump in.
>>> 
>>> I think Juan RM is not referring in general to RBN network. It looks
>like W3LPL (at least) has some kind of RBN to "Normal Cluster" gateway
>in which RBN spots that meets certain criteria, are forwarded to
>"Normal Clusters". Apparently the criteria is rareness.
>>> 
>>> So Juan point is, during a contest, he is competing with another AF
>station. He finds unfair that W3LPL keeps forwarding his rare AF
>competitor RBN spots to normal clusters while not forwarding his spotd
>because he is not rare enough.
>>> 
>>> I think Juan has a valid point if it is tbe way he describes.
>>> 
>>> 73 Eric G. NP3A
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On February 28, 2017 2:19:51 AM "Mike Smith VE9AA"
><ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> N1EN says".Keep in mind EA8's aren't banned from RBN.."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> EA8RM says (in part)". The EA8s are banned from the system I don't
>know why,
>>>> but it is very easy to
>>>> 
>>>> check.."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From Mike VE9AA:
>>>> 
>>>> Juan,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am not sure where you got your information from, and I am not an
>authority
>>>> on the RBN by any means, but I find that statement quite odd indeed
>!
>>>> 
>>>> You can check this out yourself and prove that it's just not true
>my friend.
>>>> (I did a search myself of EA8's and see 100 CW and RTTY spots from
>several
>>>> EA8's just this afternoon in the past couple hours alone.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Go to some band that is open. (20m in the daytime, 40m in the
>evening).
>>>> 
>>>> Pick a clear frequency.
>>>> 
>>>> Use a good antenna and normal power and call CQ EA8RM TEST 4 or 5
>times.
>>>> (all at the same speed)
>>>> 
>>>> Repeat a couple times on the same frequency just to be sure.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Go to: http://www.reversebeacon.net/srch.php
>>>> 
>>>> Type in EA8RM. Hit enter.
>>>> 
>>>> I am sure the page will be full from all over EU or NA (or both,
>depending
>>>> on your power, antenna, prop,e tc).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Try it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> GL !
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> CU in the next contest.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>> 
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