[CQ-Contest] Online Scoreboards - a different perspective

Mon Jul 24 10:38:47 EDT 2017

Read August CQ magazine page 90 center column and see how real time scores added to the fun and competion between N2WKS and W1NY, a real horse race 73Jay K2TTT/C6ATT

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From: "Larry Gauthier (K8UT)" <K8UT at charter.net> 
Date: 7/24/17  6:54 AM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Victor Androsov <victor.androsov at gmail.com>, k2ttt <k2ttt at optonline.net> 
Cc: Dale Putnam <daleputnam at hotmail.com>, sawyered at earthlink.net, cq-contest at contesting.com 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Online Scoreboards - a different perspective 

Thanks Victor for your efforts with this new approach to contesting. Reading 
the reflector responses, everybody seems to be looking at online scoreboards 
as merely a real-time 3830 substitute. That's because we're nailing it 
against a traditional type of contest (and its traditional rules) where it 
might not be a good fit. Victor's survey asks questions based on that 
perspective.

But what if there were a contest where online scoreboards were part of the 
contest, and participation was necessary?

Several weeks ago, Wayne N6KR of Elecraft noticed a band opening on 10 
meters and posted a message on the Elecraft reflector proclaiming a “Flash 
Mob experiment, right now, on 28.050!” Many - I counted dozens - of the 
Elecraft faithful converged on 10 CW for something akin to an instant 
contest. No scoring. No rules. But what a cool idea!

In a hobby that is struggling to attract young members and compete with the 
Internet, instant gratification, and spontaneous participation, I think 
Wayne’s experiment demonstrated a clever connection between the Internet and 
a ham radio activity.

Imagine an event using real-time reporting with a specific goal. My nearest 
analogy would be a Horse Race - first one to the goal wins. Email example: 
“SUBJECT: Flash mob – horse race on 28.025 CW!” Details and goals included 
in email body. Goals not necessarily traditional raw QSO counts – stuff like 
First to 5 DXCC Countries or 10 States or Grid Squares or... whatever.

The incredible success of the weekly CWOPS one-hour contests proves that 
there is an audience for short non-acclaimed (no prizes, no fanfare, no log 
submission, no 48 hours sitting in a chair) events. Horse racing (aka online 
scoreboards) bends that model into something that might attract those hams 
plus some of the younger crowd.

-larry (K8UT)
-----Original Message----- 
From: Victor Androsov
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 7:18 PM
To: k2ttt
Cc: Dale Putnam ; sawyered at earthlink.net ; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Online Scoreboards

Guys,

WoW! So many different opinions. I tried to group some answers and created
a poll: Should a contest scoreboard provide a band breakdown info?

So the voting options are the following:

- Never

- Only if operator is not in the non-assisted category

- Always, So that's a personal choice of an operator

- Always, but should be disabled for all the contests doesn't allow that
for a single operator

Please take just a few seconds of your time to vote by visiting this link:
http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=59752d16e4b004432b1089c3

That would help us to understand what exactly HAM community wants )))

73!

Victor

VA2WA / VA2WDQ

On 23 July 2017 at 18:58, k2ttt <k2ttt at optonline.net> wrote:

> FRC has done this for years in the club chat room during a test, however,
> if you are single op there is the danger of the "inadvertent " passing of
> information from non single op stations.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Dale Putnam <daleputnam at hotmail.com>
> Date: 7/23/17 6:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Victor Androsov <victor.androsov at gmail.com>
> Cc: sawyered at earthlink.net, cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Online Scoreboards
>
> So many that it won't make any difference since "everyone does it" no one
> will care. Right? That is the entire idea of making that feature. So much
> for ethics.....   have fun guys.
>
> Make this a great day
> Dale
>
> > On Jul 23, 2017, at 12:17 PM, Victor Androsov 
> > <victor.androsov at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ed,
> >
> > I guess would be not more vs other Internet messengers. There is no
> > communication tools on that room page. The private room is for personal
> > competition. Noting more. It's for contesters who wouldn't reveal
> personal
> > score to others. I know a lot of them. )))
> >
> > 73!
> >
> > Victor
> > VA2WA/ VA2WDQ
> >
> >
> > On Jul 23, 2017 1:11 PM, "Ed Sawyer" <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like the "dark web" of contesting emerging.  I wonder how many
> ESP Qs
> > and mult moves will happen in the "Private room".
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed  N1UR
> >
> >
> >
> > We have launched new Contest Online Score version having a new amazing
> > option - Private room.  Any user can create a Private room and join
> friends
> > by sharing a PIN code. No one from outside can see private room members
> > score while lucky private room members could easily switch between View
> -all
> > (room members plus others ) and Private View (the only private room
> > members). It's absolutely new feature. I've never heard about something
> else
> > before. Please help us with testing and debugging it. Any feedback 
> > really
> > appreciated!
> >
> >
> >
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