[CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted - Is it just another Urban Myth ?

[Dennis McAlpine]

Mindset may be part of it but station capability is also a big factor.  If,
like me, you have only low wires for antennas, you just can't run for very
long before you run out of stations that can hear you.  About the only way
to partially offset that is to be spotted frequently (thanks, Pete for the
RBNs)  Even so, things can get dull pretty quickly because I also can't hear
a lot of the stuff you guys with big antennas can.  Of course, I am talking
about the middle of the pack, not the top.  

I guess I could do dueling CQs like the big guys but it would be really dull
if I had two stations calling CQ and no one answering either one.  Talk
about futility...How about three dueling CQ stations?
73,
Dennis, K2SX

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ria
Jairam
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 10:26 AM
To: Trent Sampson <vk4ts at outlook.com>
Cc: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg at gmail.com>; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted - Is it just another Urban Myth ?

I do not want to compete with the cluster. Period, end of story. I don't
care of they score worse or better.

There is a different mindset using assisted and unassisted - one of them you
are basically blind, and more inclined to run. The other you can go see
everything and pick out things that you need. It is a different competition.

I've had situations where I made hundreds more QSOs than assisted in my area
and still scored lower.

Many will tell you - the minute this is imposed on those who like
unassisted, it will end contesting for them.

73
Ria, N2RJ

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Trent Sampson <vk4ts at outlook.com> wrote:
> Sorry Stan
>
> But the statistics do not support your biased view - Plain and simple 
> - Troll through ALL the results and let us know how many times 
> ASSISTED beat UNASSITED - the answer will highlight your biased 
> response
>
> Cheers
>
> VK4TS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Stockton [mailto:wa5rtg at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 31 July 2017 11:11 PM
> To: Trent Sampson
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW Assisted - Is it just another Urban Myth ?
>
> Here we go again.
>
> The answer to your question has zero relevance on whether they should be
combined.
>
> Do the results show  being assisted is a detriment like QRP is a detriment
as compared to low power. If so, it's like me saying that QRP scores don't
beat low power scores so why not combine those categories.
>
> If anyone thinks that SO scores would not be as good if those top
operators used the internet to provide them a list of multipliers to work,
they have no clue.  If a survey was taken of those who operate SO in serious
fashion the result would be they don't want them combined.
>
> I have yet to see any logical reason to eliminate the category other than
it is difficult to enforce the rules.
>
> 73... Stan, K5GO
>
>
>
> Sent from Stan's IPhone
>
>
>
>> On Jul 31, 2017, at 6:26 AM, Trent Sampson <vk4ts at outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>> The Assisted category in the CQWW is 25 years old this year;
>>
>> It was created because of the advantages" given to operators who were 
>> using the spotter networks
>>
>> In all of the 25 years of assisted categories in the CQWW how many 
>> times has the world SOAB (Assisted) beaten the SOAB (Unassisted) ? - 
>> It is a trick question
>>
>> Based on factual information is there any reason to not combine the
categories ? before you answer look at the data...
>>
>>
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