[CQ-Contest] KU1CW location

[Ria Jairam]

Hello Bob,

You are incorrect about this one. The terms of the home license do also
apply.

The relevant regulation is 97.107 (b), particularly (1) and (2)

97.107:

... The privileges granted to a  control operator
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under
this authorization are:

...
(b) For an  amateur service
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license
granted by any country, other than Canada, with which the United  States
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a multilateral or bilateral agreement:

(1) The terms of the agreement between the alien's government and the
United States;

(2) The operating terms and conditions of the  amateur service
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granted by the alien's government;



As for the operation being allowed in the first place, I'll forward you an
email from Dan Henderson as I had asked about this topic concerning someone
who wanted to use my station.

Ria
N2RJ

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:07 AM <w5ov at w5ov.com> wrote:

> N2RJ said:
>
> " Just be careful that you are indeed doing so. CEPT T/R 61-01 is not
> sufficient authorization for a European licensee to operate an internet
> remote base in the US while being physically present overseas...."
>
> EU rules do not apply to amateur radio transmissions made from within the
> USA under any circunstances.
>
> Where the operator is located is completely irrelevant.
>
> What happens on the air from a USA station is governed by US FCC Law -
> nothing else.
>
> US Law applies and the operators must comply with FCC rules as if they were
> physically within the USA.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob W5OV
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Ria
> Jairam
> Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 5:53 PM
> To: W4AAW at aol.com
> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] KU1CW location
>
> > W1VE and other serious operators of remote-capable stations will agree
> > with me:  We remote-capable stations are not trying to fool anyone or
> > gain some sort of geographical or unfair advantage.  We're just being
> competitive and striving to do so strictly within the rules.
>
>
> There is really nothing wrong with trying to gain an advantage during a
> contest. That's what contesting is. As long as it is within the rules.
> Operating from elsewhere to do better in contests has been a staple of
> contesting for pretty much as long as it has existed.
>
> >2. Alex is a member of TeamW4AAW, which operates the first Totally Remote
> M/M station.
> >We have 31 team members who operate W4AAW's positions from all over NA,
> >from Panama,  Europe and Asia, provided they meet legal/licensing
> requirements.
>
> Just be careful that you are indeed doing so. CEPT T/R 61-01 is not
> sufficient authorization for a European licensee to operate an internet
> remote base in the US while being physically present overseas. Even if they
> were allowed, their home license restrictions and power limits (while not
> exceeding US Extra) apply. In the UK it is
> 400 watts for full licenses and in Germany it is 750W for class A licenses.
> Other European countries may be different. The best thing for them to do to
> be compliant with the laws of the US is to get a US license. There are VE
> sessions in many countries overseas and one can get a license by passing
> the
> (now very easy) exams. No code required, even.
>
> >4.  The 3830 comments for KU1CW @ W4AAW in the CQWPX CW test very
> >clearly show the  locations of each operator.
>
> An awards chaser who isn't competing in the contest is unlikely to know
> about nor care about 3830. The best thing to do would be to put the
> location
> of the stations in the QRZ profile, which is the first place they look.
>
> 73
> Ria, N2RJ
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 4:30 PM, W4AAW at aol.com via CQ-Contest
> <cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
> > Here is the correct information on KU1CW in the CQWPX CW contest.
> >
> > 1. Alex has just moved to Washington State.  He has not yet modified his
> license to reflect this recent development.
> >
> > 2. Alex is a member of TeamW4AAW, which operates the first Totally Remote
> M/M station.  We have 31 team members who operate W4AAW's positions from
> all
> over NA, from Panama, Europe and Asia, provided they meet legal/licensing
> requirements.
> >
> > 3. Since a W4 call sign is common in WPX tests, I suggested to Alex we
> use
> KU1CW for the contest.  Alex agreed. So, the entry (as shown on 3830) was
> KU1CW@ W4AAW.
> >
> > 4.  The 3830 comments for KU1CW @ W4AAW in the CQWPX CW test very clearly
> show the locations of each operator.
> >
> > If some people had bothered to read information that is readily available
> in that posting, it would not have been necessary to cast aspersions.
> >
> > During some periods of the contest, Alex even operated SO2R, using two
> W4AAW positions remotely, from Washington State.
> >
> > W1VE and other serious operators of remote-capable stations will agree
> with me:  We remote-capable stations are not trying to fool anyone or gain
> some sort of geographical or unfair advantage.  We're just being
> competitive
> and striving to do so strictly within the rules.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > 73, Mike W4AAW
> >
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