[CQ-Contest] PJ4G ARRL DX SSB Recording by N2IC

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

Jeff,

Thanks for the comments.  I agree with your interpretation of the rules, 
I don't like that it is allowed and like many have asked the ARRL to 
close this loophole.

Many believe that if everyone adopted this philosophy that the band 
would be a mess.  People would have a very difficult time finding a 
place to CQ unless you were a big gun etc.

73 and thanks for all the contacts from everywhere!

W0MU


On 3/12/2017 9:56 PM, Jeff Clarke wrote:
> N2IC wrote :
>
> Listen to 21345.4 and 21237.1 at the same time.
>
> Falls under the "what is not specifically prohibited is allowed" rule ?
>
> And
>
> For those that missed it....
>
> http://www.kkn.net/~n2ic/PJ4G.mp3 <http://www.kkn.net/%7En2ic/PJ4G.mp3>
>
> 21345.4 on one audio channel, 21237.1 on the other audio channel.
>
>
>
>
> Sorry for the late reply to this but after reading the comments on 
> Steve's post and the replies I felt the need to comment on this.
>
> Some background...
>
> K4BAI and myself have been operating from the PJ4G station as PJ4A for 
> CW contests since the mid -2000's. A few years ago the club started 
> using a remote receive antennas a good distance away from the transmit 
> antennas. Two short towers - one pointed to the USA with a tribander 
> and a SAL loop at the same location. There is also a EU receive site 
> with a tribander pointed to Europe and also a EU beverage. Because 
> these receive antennas are connected via coax they are legal within 
> the rules for both the ARRL and CQWW contests. In fact W4PA has 
> visited us several times during their PJ4Q trips for CQWW DX CW and 
> has never made a comment that this wasn't within the rules. This 
> answers the question some people had on how you can have two stations 
> on the same band without much interference.
>
> The 2nd point : Maybe N2IC is confusing the ARRL DX rules with those 
> of CQWW ? Alternating CQ's on the same band are prohibited in CQWW 
> contests but not in ARRL contests.
>
> CQWW Rules :
>
> Only one signal on a band is allowed at any time. When two or more 
> transmitters are present on the same band, a hardware device MUST be 
> used to prevent more than one signal at any one time. Alternating 
> CQs    on two or more frequencies on a band is not permitted.
>
> ARRL Rules:
>
> I looked at the ARRL DX rules and the HF General Contest Rules and I 
> don't see anything that prohibits alternating CQ's on the same band. I 
> don't think the comment W3LPL made about ARRL DX is correct... or I'm 
> missing finding it in the rules.
>
> The only ARRL contest that has this rule is IARU for Multi_Single 
> entries :
>
> *4.3.2.1. *Alternating CQs on two or more frequencies on the same band 
> is not permitted.
>
> Note : 1.2.General Rules for HF and VHF contests take precedence over 
> General Rules for all contests.
>
>
> http://www.arrl.org/arrl-dx
> http://www.arrl.org/general-rules-for-all-arrl-contests
> http://www.arrl.org/general-rules-for-arrl-contests-below-30-mhz
>
> PJ4G was Multi-Multi so the only rule that would apply to them is :
>
> *2.3.3.Multioperator Multi-transmitter:*
>
> *2.3.3.1. *A maximum of one transmitted signal per band at any given 
> time.
>
>  There are lockout devices at the PJ4G station. The 2nd in-band radio 
> shares the same amplifier and antenna as the run station. There is a 
> device (I think Ameritron makes it?) that allows you to use an AL1200 
> with two radios and isolates one when the other transmits. So it would 
> be impossible for them to have two signals on the same band at the 
> same time.
>
>
> Jeff KU8E / PJ4A team
>
>
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