[CQ-Contest] Prohibiting Interleaved CQs on Two or More Frequencies in the Same Band

Wed Mar 15 14:13:14 EDT 2017

Thanks for the nudge Ria

Our Local CAC rep is Cas K3WW   will send Him a email voicing my opinion.

I would advise other to do the same

Wayne W3EA

 Your  ARRL CAC rep  http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Contest%2520-%2520General/CACLST%20Feb2017.pdf

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ARRL Contest Advisory Committee . February 2017 . Atlantic – Charles D. Fulp, Jr., K3WW (H) 215-257-7472 1326 N 5th St., Perkasie, PA 18944 (W) 215-257-5200

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From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com> on behalf of Ria Jairam <rjairam at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 9:48 AM
To: W0MU Mike Fatchett; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Prohibiting Interleaved CQs on Two or More Frequencies in the Same Band

The appropriate person would be the contest advisory committee member for
your district.

Listing is here:
http://www.arrl.org/arrl-staff-cac

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You could copy Bart as well and your division director but some directors
don't really know radiosport that well. Sending to the CAC member for your
district gets a person knowledgeable in radiosport aware of the issue.

I sent Frank's email with my thoughts to my rep and Bart W9JJ as well.
George Tranos replied and said he would forward my thoughts on. So this
seems to be gaining some traction.

Ria
N2RJ

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 9:37 AM W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:

> If you agree that the rules need to be changed,  you need to make your
> ARRL Division Directors aware of your feelings.  I believe there is a
> meeting coming up soon and I believe that this item can be taken up at
> that time.
>
> Alternating CQ's on different bands is pretty common on RTTY.  I think
> that this practice should be allowed and monitored to make sure that
> stations are adhering to the one transmitted signal at a time for Single
> ops.
>
> I can only image the situation where we have a wall of stations at
> 14.150 going up and 14.347 going down for alternating cq's. Add in EU
> and the Caribbean and we have a big mess.
>
> W0MU
>
>
> On 3/14/2017 5:08 PM, Dick Green WC1M wrote:
> > I strongly support Frank's proposal, but the prohibition should apply to
> Single Ops, too, as it does in CQ WW.
> >
> > I realize that multi-op stations are more likely to be equipped to do
> alternating CQs on the same band (A and B radios with two ops on each band,
> multiple antennas per band with good isolation), but it certainly can be
> done in an SO2R station. If only one band is open enough to run, then the
> impact on the spectrum is the same.
> >
> > Is there a compelling reason to allow Single Ops to do alternating CQs
> on the same band?
> >
> > Actually, I think a case could be made for banning alternating CQs
> altogether. I'd regret that because I've sometimes used it as a Single Op
> to boost rate or fight boredom, but it definitely does use up more
> spectrum. If only two bands are open in a big contest, that spectrum is
> likely to be very limited. What if a rare mult running low power can't find
> a place to CQ because the alternating CQers are taking up more than their
> share of space? What about the impact on non-contesters?
> >
> > 73. Dick WC1M
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: donovanf at starpower.net [mailto:donovanf at starpower.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 2:01 PM
> > To: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Prohibiting Interleaved CQs on Two or More
> Frequencies in the Same Band
> >
> >
> > I recommend that alternating CQs on two or more frequencies on the same
> band be prohibited immediately in all ARRL HF contests, exactly as it is
> now prohibited in all CQ WW DX Contests and for multi-operators in the IARU
> HF Championship.
> >
> > The reason for my recommendation is that the recent success of the PJ4G
> team in CQing on alternate frequencies on the same band (both on 20 and 15
> meters) in the recent ARRL SSB DX Contest will inevitably be applied --
> very soon -- by other multi-operator competitors in future ARRL contests.
> Unfortunately this will be to the very considerable detriment of other HF
> spectrum users
> > -- both contesters and non-contesters -- because of the very limited
> available spectrum on every HF band below 28 MHz.
> >
> > The obvious course of action is to simply apply existing IARU HF
> Championship rule 4.3.2.1 to all multi-operator categories in all ARRL HF
> contests.
> >
> > 4.3.2.1. Alternating CQs on two or more frequencies on the same band is
> not permitted.
> >
> > http://www.arrl.org/iaru-hf-championship
> >
> > A CAC sub-committee is currently engaged in a Rules Consolidation
> Project to consolidate “The General Rules of all ARRL Contests”
> > “The General Rules for all ARRL contests Below 30 MHz” and individual
> contest rules into a single rule set for each of the ARRL HF Contests.
> >
> > In addition to the consolidation of the rules structure, the ARRL
> Programs and Services Committee (PSC) asked the team to develop any
> accompanying commentary they choose as to areas where the perceive that the
> rules might benefit from revision and, where appropriate, to suggest
> revised language.
> >
> >
> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/About%20ARRL/Committee%20Reports/2016/July/Doc_24_0716.pdf
> >
> > While the CAC's role is solely to respond to projects and issues
> assigned by the ARRL Programs and Services Committee; the CAC chairman can
> recommend future CAC projects and issues to the PSC.
> >
> > 73
> > Frank
> > W3LPL
> >
> >
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