[CQ-Contest] What is Multi to you?

W0MU Mike Fatchett w0mu at w0mu.com
Tue May 9 00:17:55 EDT 2017


This is kinda where I was headed.  We need to revert back to a much more 
simpler concept of Multi at least for Multi one or Multi single.    One 
rig many ops and fun, not 6 rigs a huge station and lots of ops and 
crazy lock out systems etc.

W0MU


On 5/8/2017 6:55 PM, Dale Putnam wrote:
>
> I wonder.. I just wonder..
>
> How would it be... if we just add a single additional class .. just 
> one.. call it Unlimited Extra.. or Extra Unlimited...
>
> and EVERY entry that is deemed as "pushing the rules"... would be 
> automatically moved to that class.
>
> Leave the rest of the rules alone.. let the newcomers and little 
> pistols play with the big boys.. and all have fun..
>
> IF you want to push the rules.. go right ahead, push away.. have some 
> fun.. and realize that you will be playing in
>
> the same level sandbox as everyone else.
>
>
> Leave the door open for newbies.. old farts... little pistols.. big 
> guns.. and ultimately.. no more whining about cheating this,
>
> or pushing that..
>
>
> what you think?
>
>
>
> Have a great day,
> --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
>
> "Actions speak louder than words"
> 1856 - Abraham Lincoln
>
>
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> *From:* CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com> on behalf of 
> W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 8, 2017 2:23 PM
> *To:* cq-contest at contesting.com
> *Subject:* Re: [CQ-Contest] What is Multi to you?
> The question is should the rules for multi be for the way most people
> view and operate the class or catered to a select few that push the
> envelope?
>
> Would we have more or better competition if we changed to rules to
> reflect the way that most multi operator situations happen?
>
> I have no problem with those that want to push the envelope but I think
> that mind set removes any desire from competing.
>
> Would more people compete in a Multi single where it is once radio only
> or a M2 where it is two radios? Where a smaller station has a chance to
> compete.
>
> What we have now is super stations just revamping their setups into
> super MS or Super M2.  Is some of it to avoid competition from other
> MM's?  I would say so.
>
> In my many years of online gaming people always talk the talk about
> wanting competition but they really don't they want to play to crush and
> will avoid true competition at any cost.  I think we see this a bit with
> people shopping for the "right" category to enter to win the paper prize.
>
> W0MU
>
>
> On 5/8/2017 7:16 AM, Ria Jairam wrote:
> > Multi single can be viewed either of two ways:
> >
> > Single station where operators take turns in the chair. This can be 
> one or
> > more transceivers.
> >
> > Single station where only one transmitted signal is allowed. More 
> than one
> > transceiver. This is where you can have a mult station and the 2nd 
> operator
> > can look for mults. However only one signal can be transmitted at a 
> time.
> >
> > The difference between the former and the latter is probably what causes
> > controversy but I really don't see what the big deal is.
> >
> > M/2 can have two stations transmitting simultaneously, CQing and mult
> > hunting. That is a huge step up from just having the 2nd op mult 
> hunting.
> >
> > 73
> > Ria, N2RJ
> > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 8:45 AM Gordon LaPoint <gordon.lapoint at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Mike,
> >>       This is a great definition of Muti-Single and Multi-Two 
> setup.   I
> >> do lots of Multi Single and Multi Two operation in RTTY contests.  
> There
> >> are two main reasons I use these modes, One is to get more of the local
> >> club members involved with contesting, and the other is I'm getting
> >> older and don't want to run 24 or 48 hours by my self!
> >>      I hope that the contesting community does not do away with either
> >> mode, they provide many hours of fun, teaching and just good will for
> >> the hams that come to my, or their, station to do these contests!
> >> The Multi-Two setup is what got us using Bambi in the NAQP contests.
> >> Once upon a time it was allowed that each operator could use his "name"
> >> during the contest, causing much confusion for the other operators
> >> working us. (You were Charlie on 20 Mtr, now Gordon on 15, What???)  We
> >> were operating from a Hunting camp in the Green Mountain National 
> Forest
> >> in VT, so the next year we chose Bambi as a name, to eliminate the
> >> confusion of the stations working us.   This added a lot of fun to the
> >> contest, and the Multi-Two mode made this all possible.   We have had
> >> many operators at this station over the years, lots of fun!
> >> Thanks,
> >> Gordon - N1MGO
> >>
> >> On 05/05/2017 06:13 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> >>> What does Multi Single mean to you?
> >>>
> >>> What does Multi-Two mean to you?
> >>>
> >>> What do these terms mean to the majority of contesters?  Does anyone
> >>> know?  Do the organizers know?
> >>>
> >>> Multi-Single to me and many that I have discussed this with,  is one
> >>> rig and more than one person doing the operating.  Simple.  A bunch of
> >>> guys having fun around a radio.  It might even include some beer! A
> >>> group of folks that may not want to operate the entire contest period
> >>> or have more fun in groups or where clubs can get together and have
> >>> fun.  It is not a Multi Multi station reconfigured with a bunch of
> >>> interconnects and locks outs.
> >>>
> >>> Multi-two.  Two radios and multiple operators.  Same as above.
> >>> Simple.  This allows a slightly bigger station to branch out and bring
> >>> in some more people.
> >>>
> >>> We already have a class for Lots of radios and operators it is called
> >>> Multi-Multi.  Go knock yourselves out. Put 12 rigs on a band and
> >>> figure out how to adhere to the rules.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> --
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