[CQ-Contest] What is Multi to you?

Tue May 9 10:05:31 EDT 2017

The big difference between M/2 and M/S is that you can have more than one
station running. So there is really not much difference between a SO2R M/S
and a SO1R M/S with a 2nd mult station.

Ria, N2RJ

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 12:17 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:

> This is kinda where I was headed.  We need to revert back to a much more
> simpler concept of Multi at least for Multi one or Multi single.    One rig
> many ops and fun, not 6 rigs a huge station and lots of ops and crazy lock
> out systems etc.
>
> W0MU
>
>
> On 5/8/2017 6:55 PM, Dale Putnam wrote:
>
>>
>> I wonder.. I just wonder..
>>
>> How would it be... if we just add a single additional class .. just one..
>> call it Unlimited Extra.. or Extra Unlimited...
>>
>> and EVERY entry that is deemed as "pushing the rules"... would be
>> automatically moved to that class.
>>
>> Leave the rest of the rules alone.. let the newcomers and little pistols
>> play with the big boys.. and all have fun..
>>
>> IF you want to push the rules.. go right ahead, push away.. have some
>> fun.. and realize that you will be playing in
>>
>> the same level sandbox as everyone else.
>>
>>
>> Leave the door open for newbies.. old farts... little pistols.. big
>> guns.. and ultimately.. no more whining about cheating this,
>>
>> or pushing that..
>>
>>
>> what you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> Have a great day,
>> --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
>>
>> "Actions speak louder than words"
>> 1856 - Abraham Lincoln
>>
>>
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>> *From:* CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com> on behalf of W0MU
>> Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 8, 2017 2:23 PM
>> *To:* cq-contest at contesting.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [CQ-Contest] What is Multi to you?
>>
>> The question is should the rules for multi be for the way most people
>> view and operate the class or catered to a select few that push the
>> envelope?
>>
>> Would we have more or better competition if we changed to rules to
>> reflect the way that most multi operator situations happen?
>>
>> I have no problem with those that want to push the envelope but I think
>> that mind set removes any desire from competing.
>>
>> Would more people compete in a Multi single where it is once radio only
>> or a M2 where it is two radios? Where a smaller station has a chance to
>> compete.
>>
>> What we have now is super stations just revamping their setups into
>> super MS or Super M2.  Is some of it to avoid competition from other
>> MM's?  I would say so.
>>
>> In my many years of online gaming people always talk the talk about
>> wanting competition but they really don't they want to play to crush and
>> will avoid true competition at any cost.  I think we see this a bit with
>> people shopping for the "right" category to enter to win the paper prize.
>>
>> W0MU
>>
>>
>> On 5/8/2017 7:16 AM, Ria Jairam wrote:
>> > Multi single can be viewed either of two ways:
>> >
>> > Single station where operators take turns in the chair. This can be one
>> or
>> > more transceivers.
>> >
>> > Single station where only one transmitted signal is allowed. More than
>> one
>> > transceiver. This is where you can have a mult station and the 2nd
>> operator
>> > can look for mults. However only one signal can be transmitted at a
>> time.
>> >
>> > The difference between the former and the latter is probably what causes
>> > controversy but I really don't see what the big deal is.
>> >
>> > M/2 can have two stations transmitting simultaneously, CQing and mult
>> > hunting. That is a huge step up from just having the 2nd op mult
>> hunting.
>> >
>> > 73
>> > Ria, N2RJ
>> > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 8:45 AM Gordon LaPoint <gordon.lapoint at gmail.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mike,
>> >>       This is a great definition of Muti-Single and Multi-Two setup.
>>  I
>> >> do lots of Multi Single and Multi Two operation in RTTY contests.
>> There
>> >> are two main reasons I use these modes, One is to get more of the local
>> >> club members involved with contesting, and the other is I'm getting
>> >> older and don't want to run 24 or 48 hours by my self!
>> >>      I hope that the contesting community does not do away with either
>> >> mode, they provide many hours of fun, teaching and just good will for
>> >> the hams that come to my, or their, station to do these contests!
>> >> The Multi-Two setup is what got us using Bambi in the NAQP contests.
>> >> Once upon a time it was allowed that each operator could use his "name"
>> >> during the contest, causing much confusion for the other operators
>> >> working us. (You were Charlie on 20 Mtr, now Gordon on 15, What???)  We
>> >> were operating from a Hunting camp in the Green Mountain National
>> Forest
>> >> in VT, so the next year we chose Bambi as a name, to eliminate the
>> >> confusion of the stations working us.   This added a lot of fun to the
>> >> contest, and the Multi-Two mode made this all possible.   We have had
>> >> many operators at this station over the years, lots of fun!
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Gordon - N1MGO
>> >>
>> >> On 05/05/2017 06:13 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>> >>> What does Multi Single mean to you?
>> >>>
>> >>> What does Multi-Two mean to you?
>> >>>
>> >>> What do these terms mean to the majority of contesters?  Does anyone
>> >>> know?  Do the organizers know?
>> >>>
>> >>> Multi-Single to me and many that I have discussed this with,  is one
>> >>> rig and more than one person doing the operating.  Simple.  A bunch of
>> >>> guys having fun around a radio.  It might even include some beer! A
>> >>> group of folks that may not want to operate the entire contest period
>> >>> or have more fun in groups or where clubs can get together and have
>> >>> fun.  It is not a Multi Multi station reconfigured with a bunch of
>> >>> interconnects and locks outs.
>> >>>
>> >>> Multi-two.  Two radios and multiple operators.  Same as above.
>> >>> Simple.  This allows a slightly bigger station to branch out and bring
>> >>> in some more people.
>> >>>
>> >>> We already have a class for Lots of radios and operators it is called
>> >>> Multi-Multi.  Go knock yourselves out. Put 12 rigs on a band and
>> >>> figure out how to adhere to the rules.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >> --
>> >> Gordon - N1MGO
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