[CQ-Contest] What is Multi to you?

Tue May 9 12:00:34 EDT 2017

"Probably it could return with the modification that it be a refuge for entries that would otherwise face the DQ ban hammer. Either you choose to get DQed or you get shifted to the "extreme" category where pretty much anything goes..."

I could go with this.. no problem.

It's been said that anyone could win with a couple of radios and a tribander..

I don't remember anyone doing that west of the Mississippi..

last time I checked.. west of the Mississippi, is still part of the US.

Have a great day,
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy

"Actions speak louder than words"
1856 - Abraham Lincoln

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From: Ria Jairam <rjairam at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2017 8:03 AM
To: Dale Putnam
Cc: W0MU Mike Fatchett; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] What is Multi to you?

CQWW tried that, I believe. It allowed such things as remote receivers in other countries. It was called the "extreme" category.

Only difference was that rule breakers in other categories were still DQed.

Probably it could return with the modification that it be a refuge for entries that would otherwise face the DQ ban hammer. Either you choose to get DQed or you get shifted to the "extreme" category where pretty much anything goes...

73
Ria, N2RJ

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Dale Putnam <daleputnam at hotmail.com<mailto:daleputnam at hotmail.com>> wrote:
I wonder.. I just wonder..

How would it be... if we just add a single additional class .. just one.. call it Unlimited Extra.. or Extra Unlimited...

and EVERY entry that is deemed as "pushing the rules"... would be automatically moved to that class.

Leave the rest of the rules alone.. let the newcomers and little pistols play with the big boys.. and all have fun..

IF you want to push the rules.. go right ahead, push away.. have some fun.. and realize that you will be playing in

the same level sandbox as everyone else.

Leave the door open for newbies.. old farts... little pistols.. big guns.. and ultimately.. no more whining about cheating this,

or pushing that..

what you think?

Have a great day,
--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy

"Actions speak louder than words"
1856 - Abraham Lincoln

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From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com>> on behalf of W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com<mailto:w0mu at w0mu.com>>
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] What is Multi to you?

The question is should the rules for multi be for the way most people
view and operate the class or catered to a select few that push the
envelope?

Would we have more or better competition if we changed to rules to
reflect the way that most multi operator situations happen?

I have no problem with those that want to push the envelope but I think
that mind set removes any desire from competing.

Would more people compete in a Multi single where it is once radio only
or a M2 where it is two radios? Where a smaller station has a chance to
compete.

What we have now is super stations just revamping their setups into
super MS or Super M2.  Is some of it to avoid competition from other
MM's?  I would say so.

In my many years of online gaming people always talk the talk about
wanting competition but they really don't they want to play to crush and
will avoid true competition at any cost.  I think we see this a bit with
people shopping for the "right" category to enter to win the paper prize.

W0MU

On 5/8/2017 7:16 AM, Ria Jairam wrote:
> Multi single can be viewed either of two ways:
>
> Single station where operators take turns in the chair. This can be one or
> more transceivers.
>
> Single station where only one transmitted signal is allowed. More than one
> transceiver. This is where you can have a mult station and the 2nd operator
> can look for mults. However only one signal can be transmitted at a time.
>
> The difference between the former and the latter is probably what causes
> controversy but I really don't see what the big deal is.
>
> M/2 can have two stations transmitting simultaneously, CQing and mult
> hunting. That is a huge step up from just having the 2nd op mult hunting.
>
> 73
> Ria, N2RJ
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 8:45 AM Gordon LaPoint <gordon.lapoint at gmail.com<mailto:gordon.lapoint at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>       This is a great definition of Muti-Single and Multi-Two setup.   I
>> do lots of Multi Single and Multi Two operation in RTTY contests.  There
>> are two main reasons I use these modes, One is to get more of the local
>> club members involved with contesting, and the other is I'm getting
>> older and don't want to run 24 or 48 hours by my self!
>>      I hope that the contesting community does not do away with either
>> mode, they provide many hours of fun, teaching and just good will for
>> the hams that come to my, or their, station to do these contests!
>> The Multi-Two setup is what got us using Bambi in the NAQP contests.
>> Once upon a time it was allowed that each operator could use his "name"
>> during the contest, causing much confusion for the other operators
>> working us. (You were Charlie on 20 Mtr, now Gordon on 15, What???)  We
>> were operating from a Hunting camp in the Green Mountain National Forest
>> in VT, so the next year we chose Bambi as a name, to eliminate the
>> confusion of the stations working us.   This added a lot of fun to the
>> contest, and the Multi-Two mode made this all possible.   We have had
>> many operators at this station over the years, lots of fun!
>> Thanks,
>> Gordon - N1MGO
>>
>> On 05/05/2017 06:13 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>>> What does Multi Single mean to you?
>>>
>>> What does Multi-Two mean to you?
>>>
>>> What do these terms mean to the majority of contesters?  Does anyone
>>> know?  Do the organizers know?
>>>
>>> Multi-Single to me and many that I have discussed this with,  is one
>>> rig and more than one person doing the operating.  Simple.  A bunch of
>>> guys having fun around a radio.  It might even include some beer! A
>>> group of folks that may not want to operate the entire contest period
>>> or have more fun in groups or where clubs can get together and have
>>> fun.  It is not a Multi Multi station reconfigured with a bunch of
>>> interconnects and locks outs.
>>>
>>> Multi-two.  Two radios and multiple operators.  Same as above.
>>> Simple.  This allows a slightly bigger station to branch out and bring
>>> in some more people.
>>>
>>> We already have a class for Lots of radios and operators it is called
>>> Multi-Multi.  Go knock yourselves out. Put 12 rigs on a band and
>>> figure out how to adhere to the rules.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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