[CQ-Contest] SS and CW contesting

[John Geiger]

I am not trolling.  As far as I know, using prefills from a database isn't
explicitly against the rules, where the rules say that you must copy all of
the QSO information.  If you use some of that information from the prefill
and don't copy it over the air, then it is not a legal contact.

What I don't understand is the logic behind "I want to punish people who
don't follow the rules by not following the rules myself".  Those who are
so worried about following the rules should lead by example.

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:24 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com> wrote:

> Overall the checks are a good indication, and just look around the room at
> the ages of the contesters.  I am 53 and younger than most.
>
> Keep up the trolling John.
>
>
>
> On 11/9/2017 9:04 AM, John Geiger wrote:
>
>> "And MOST importantly look at the
>> checks in the last SS."
>>
>> We can't do that since people can send whatever number they want.  Maybe
>> lots of new hams are running the CWSS but they send checks in the 50s, 60,
>> and 70s so people think they are really experienced hams, and so people
>> can't use the prefills :)
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Bill via CQ-Contest <
>> cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
>>
>> It has now been 10 years since the US went code-free and ham radio license
>>> numbers are at ALL TIME highs - 750K total, half are general and extra
>>> that
>>> have HF privileges. 30K new techs a year, 10K upgrades a year from tech
>>> to
>>> general/extra. The problem for CW contesting is the number of hams that
>>> can
>>> copy code at 20+ WPM is decreasing and will continue to do so. New hams
>>> are
>>> on SSB/FM/digital. Look at the FT8 band segments on a bandscope. Look at
>>> the
>>> QSO totals in the RTTY contests. Read QST. And MOST importantly look at
>>> the
>>> checks in the last SS.
>>>
>>> Looking at the number of submitted logs for a contest doesn't indicate
>>> how
>>> the contest is doing, because it is now so easy to submit a log via web
>>> page
>>> copy and paste. A good indication is for all the ops that put in 22+
>>> hours
>>> last weekend to ask themselves if they HAD fun and if they look forward
>>> to
>>> putting in 22+ hours next year? Did they feel like they couldn't wait for
>>> it
>>> to end? Were they squirming in their chair the last few hours?
>>>
>>> The only significant major contest scoring change I can think of in the
>>> last
>>> 45 years is WPX getting rid of zero point Q's. That's when I started
>>> entering
>>> the WPX. There needs to be some changes in the SS for those of us that
>>> still
>>> operate CW contests. Only 54 stations reported on 3830 operating 24
>>> hours.
>>> In
>>> 2010 there were 125 stations. I don't see anything positive in that
>>> trend.
>>>
>>> 73, Bill KO7SS  (47 years operating CWSS)
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