[CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

I can see both sides of this argument.  While it seems dirty to use data 
collected by others, many do this with Super Check partial right?  Many 
countries publish callsign data so that makes it different.

Who is using the SS data?  Is it your top 10 contenders or is it people 
just trying to have fun that may not copy code all that well that want a 
bit of a crutch?  Does it matter?

If you want to change your check than I am all for it.  This probably 
does not affect the serious competitors in the standings and the 
participants probably don't care about busts anyway.  I see tons of bust 
even recently where people think I am still in a state where I am not 
and have not operated SS from in years.

Just operate and have fun!

W0MU



On 10/20/2017 9:41 AM, Ria Jairam wrote:
> Then so be it. If they want to not risk busted QSOs they'll copy
> what's sent and not rely on what's in the database. I am not even sure
> what year I was licensed.
>
> The "on their toes" part was a joke, but it's clear that some hams
> have no sense of humor.
>
> Safest way is to listen, copy and strive to be accurate, and realize
> that there is risk in using a database. If you train yourself to do
> that, there's much less risk of busted QSOs.
>
> 73
> Ria, N2RJ
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Ted Bryant <w4nz at comcast.net> wrote:
>> "... I routinely "update" my exchange from the last contest, just to confound those who use "pre-loaded" data file crutches ..."
>>
>> "... I’ve been meaning to change things up anyway, just to keep them on their toes..."
>>
>> These practices were part of a discussion at Contest University in Dayton a few years ago.  IIRC, this raised a question of ethics when the purpose was as stated above.
>>
>> In any case, be aware that you are setting yourself up for a lot of fill requests from operators who are "on their toes" to confirm what they're hearing  that's at odds with the call history info.
>>
>> Ted W4NZ
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ria Jairam
>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 5:14 PM
>> To: Art Boyars; CQ-Contest Reflector
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"
>>
>> I’ve been meaning to change things up anyway, just to keep them on their toes.
>>
>> 73
>> Ria, N2RJ
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:31 PM Art Boyars <artboyars at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> When I saw the post about Call History Files for SS, and then saw the
>>> post for the site where you can get them, I was tempted to put in some
>>> bogus data -- change CK 60 to CK 69; change name Art to name Ari.  But
>>> I'm not quite that cranky.  Yet.
>>>
>>> 73, Art K3KU
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Radio K0HB <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where possible, I routinely "update" my exchange from the last
>>>> contest, just to confound those who use "pre-loaded" data file crutches.
>>>>
>>>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Art Boyars
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:01 PM
>>>> To: CQ-Contest Reflector
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"
>>>>
>>>> E-mail chatting with N4ZR, who has relocated from WV to MD.  Pete
>>>> muses that a lot of people who rely on SCP or Call History (or
>>>> whatever it is) "to save on typing" will bust the QSO by logging him as WV.
>>>>
>>>> I can see it now -- a cry for making the data files official;
>>>> perhaps prohibiting people from relocating or using a different name.
>>>>
>>>> "All participants must register in the official Call History File.
>>>> Your log must contain the data as reported in that File.  Scoring
>>>> will be in accordance with that File."
>>>>
>>>> Just think of all the typing we'll save!
>>>>
>>>> 73, Art K3KU
>>>> who hopes you took this in fun (sort of)
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