[CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"

Fri Oct 20 23:31:49 EDT 2017

I laugh at this!
I too can not believe when people say they can not remember when they 
got their first license.

Not only do I remember it, I remember every detail OF IT!

Year, 1975

Month, September

Day, Wednesday the 24th

It was 1 PM or so, +/- a hour. For that was the window of time that the 
mailman always arrived at our house.

It was a cold wet and rainy day. I was home sick with a terrible cold 
from school.

The mailman dropped off some mail and I went to look hoping for some 
more SWL QSL Cards. I was a avid SWLer.

Then I saw this UGLY beat up thing from the FCC, and my life has not 
been the same since!

Joe WB9SBD
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On 10/20/2017 4:21 PM, jamesdavidcain at gmail.com wrote:
> Someday, children, when you grow up, you will be proud of the year you were first licensed, and thrilled that you can actually remember it.
>
> K1TN (CK 61)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ria Jairam [mailto:rjairam at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 4:24 PM
> To: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt at mymts.net>
> Cc: Michael Clarson <wv2zow at gmail.com>; James Cain <jamesdavidcain at gmail.com>; CQ contest reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"
>
> It also sounds like the check can be either the operator or the station.
>
>> 4.4.1. The last 2 digits of the year of first license for either the
>> operator or the station.
> 73
> Ria, N2RJ
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt at mymts.net> wrote:
>> The difficulty with being obstinate about following rules to the letter is situations vary and rules are often vague. The check is certainly in that category.
>>
>> If you are a guest op, is it YOUR year of first licence or your
>> host’s? If you’re using his callsign, using your check muddles
>> matters. If it’s a multiop, whose check? If you were to follow the
>> rules to the letter, you might have each op giving out his own check
>> (it’s not exactly clear when all it says is “the year you were first
>> licensed.”)
>>
>> Further: the rules also state quite clearly “the decisions of the ARRL
>> are final.” The ARRL has decided it will not enforce checks (pretty
>> hard to do, anyway). (Which is not the same as saying you get away
>> with miscopying a check, merely the League will take no steps to
>> determine if VE4XT really was first licensed in 1982. (I was.))
>>
>> So, if you’re obstinate about following rules and the rules say the ARRL decisions are final, then you must accept there is some deliberate vagueness to the rule and stop worrying about it.
>>
>> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Michael Clarson <wv2zow at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Have to agree with James. Rules pretty clear on what the exchange is.
>>> Check is"year first licensed", not some two digit number I made up to
>>> change things up. --Mike, WV2ZOW
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:23 AM,  <jamesdavidcain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Lessee, now. This discussion began concerning the ARRL Sweepstakes
>>>> contest(s).
>>>>
>>>> Seems to me that a legitimate entry must follow the rules for the
>>>> exchange, and those rules are specific. I don't see where any of the
>>>> exchange elements can be fudged, or "negotiated."
>>>>
>>>> If you don't plan to submit your SS log you can fudge anything you
>>>> want -- except your call sign. But that's not playing fair.
>>>>
>>>> K1TN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 4.1. A consecutive serial number;
>>>>
>>>> 4.2. Precedence;
>>>>
>>>> 4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 Watts output or less);
>>>>
>>>> 4.2.2. "A" for Single Op Low Power (up to 150 W output);
>>>>
>>>> 4.2.3. "B" for Single Op High Power (greater than 150 W output);
>>>>
>>>> 4.2.4. "U" for Single Op Unlimited Single-Op Unlimited High Power
>>>> and Single-Op Unlimited Low Power both send "U")
>>>>
>>>> 4.2.5. "M" for Multi-Op (Multiop High Power and Multiop Low Power
>>>> both send
>>>> "M")
>>>>
>>>> 4.2.6. "S" for School Club;
>>>>
>>>> 4.3. Your Callsign (remember that you must include your call sign
>>>> during the
>>>> exchange)
>>>>
>>>> 4.4. Check
>>>>
>>>> 4.4.1. The last 2 digits of the year of first license for either the
>>>> operator or the station.
>>>>
>>>> 4.4.2. An entry must send the same Check throughout the entire contest.
>>>>
>>>> 4.5. ARRL/RAC Section (click here for the official list
>>>> <http://www.arrl.org/contest-sections-list> )
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------
>>>>
>>>> I've been meaning to change things up anyway, just to keep them on
>>>> their toes.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Ria, N2RJ
>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:31 PM Art Boyars <artboyars at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When I saw the post about Call History Files for SS, and then saw
>>>>> the post for the site where you can get them, I was tempted to put
>>>>> in some bogus data -- change CK 60 to CK 69; change name Art to
>>>>> name Ari.  But I'm not quite that cranky.  Yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Art K3KU
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Radio K0HB <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Where possible, I routinely "update" my exchange from the last
>>>>>> contest, just to confound those who use "pre-loaded" data file crutches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Art Boyars
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:01 PM
>>>>>> To: CQ-Contest Reflector
>>>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E-mail chatting with N4ZR, who has relocated from WV to MD.  Pete
>>>>>> muses that a lot of people who rely on SCP or Call History (or
>>>>>> whatever it is) "to save on typing" will bust the QSO by logging him as WV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can see it now -- a cry for making the data files official;
>>>>>> perhaps prohibiting people from relocating or using a different name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "All participants must register in the official Call History File.
>>>>>> Your log must contain the data as reported in that File.  Scoring
>>>>>> will be in accordance with that File."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just think of all the typing we'll save!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Art K3KU
>>>>>> who hopes you took this in fun (sort of)
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