[CQ-Contest] CQWW

[John Geiger]

It is interesting that in the ARRL DX contest, US stations cannot work
Canada which is a separate country from the US, but we can work Alaska and
Hawaii, which are both part of the US.  Not exactly a "DX Contest" is it?

John AF5CC

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Mike Ritz <w7vo at comcast.net> wrote:

> I am all for the "everybody works everybody" rule that the CQWW RTTY has,
> especially since we run into so many US people in the contest that don't
> know that you can only work DX, and will answer you when you are running.
> This is a contact that you have to make to be able to move on, and is zero
> points. I was reminded of how fun the RTTY contest was last weekend when I
> could sit some new hams down in the shack and let them have at it, and
> everybody they worked was worth at least one point.
>
> Our local DX club here in the Pacific NW has a year long "contest within a
> contest" going on with several other NW based clubs, including a VE based
> DX club. Every US station the VE club works in the CQWW Phone and CW are
> worth points, every US station we work are zeros. There are a lot more US
> stations on than VEs, which really skews the results. The CQWW RTTY rules
> evens up the playing field somewhat, as they still get 2 points per US QSO,
> but at least we get one point rather than zero.
>
> That said, rules are rules, and the idea is to have as much fun as
> possible within the rules!
>
> 73;
> Mike
> W7VO
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "John Geiger" <af5cc2 at gmail.com>
> To: "Ria Jairam" <rjairam at gmail.com>
> Cc: sawyered at earthlink.net, "CQ-Contest Reflector" <
> cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:18:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW
>
> Some stations, like those in the US, can get the zone multipliers by
> working other countries. I can get zones 3, 4 and 5 by working Canada. I
> don't have to work a station in my country to get them, so if we eliminated
> same country QSOs, I would lose 1 mult-the US country multiplier.
>
> However, some other amateurs wouldn't be so fortunate. If I am in Asiatic
> Russia and in Zone 17, and I cannot work other stations in my country,
> there is no way for me to get zones 18 and 19 as multipliers. That rule
> then costs me 3 multipliers per band-1 country multiplier and 2 zone
> multipliers.
>
> 73 John AF5CC
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Ria Jairam <rjairam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If that is the case then we shouldn't be able to contact US stations
> > for the country and zone mult.
> >
> > I find this to be an anomaly for two reasons:
> >
> > 1. You try to contact US stations to get the zone and country mult and
> > some of them get angry that you're taking away precious op time from
> > them.
> >
> > 2. You're running a pileup and a bunch of US stations are calling you
> > trying for the country and zone mult and some out of plain ignorance,
> > they hear a contest is on and then work everyone they can hear. The
> > former is no big deal. The latter is a problem because you don't know
> > if to ignore them.
> >
> > The same country zone and country mult should either be eliminated OR
> > credit for stateside QSOs would be welcome. The former will have the
> > least impact in terms of scores. The latter would bring a shift and
> > would likely make some stations more competitive (I can see the
> > central states benefitting more).
> >
> > The game has and can always evolve. Strategy will have to change too,
> > nothing wrong with that.
> >
> > 73
> > Ria, N2RJ
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > > Its actually called the CQ World Wide DX Contest. The reason that
> > domestic
> > > contacts do not count for points should be quite clear based on the
> > actual
> > > name of the contest.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I believe the rules were amended for the RTTY contest because there was
> > > initially so little participation that it needed an enhancement to be
> > > viable. If its now become much more popular, the CQ WW DX RTTY should
> > > actually consider adopting the traditional rules.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Find a contest that suits your style and location and enjoy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ed N1UR
> > >
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