[CQ-Contest] Contesters review: new FT8, WSJT 2.0.0

robert wa1fcn at charter.net
Sat Dec 15 20:41:43 EST 2018

GE Tim

         Basically I agree with you. I also DO NOT plan to use FT8. Tho it

         might very helpfull to UNlimited class 0n 80 meters for 

         If anyone is wondering, yes I do operate a lot of FT8.  I have two

         radio/computer set up, and generally my backup is on FT8, while 
I am

         doing important things on main computer.

             GL to all  BoB WA1FCN

On 12/15/2018 5:53 PM, Ed Muns wrote:
> The discussion below is based on the WSJT-X non-contest protocol.  Did you
> achieve any higher rates using the ARRL RTTY Roundup contest protocol in the
> FT8 Roundup two weeks ago?  If so, probably not by much.
> That protocol will eventually have a "TU, NW" feature added which will get
> instantaneous rate to 120/hour.  SO2R double that.  Of course, average rate
> over a full hour will be less, but it will be much faster than then the
> current WSJT-X contest version.
> Ed W0YK
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Shoppa
> Sent: 14 December, 2018 11:49
> To: PVRC; cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Contesters review: new FT8, WSJT 2.0.0
> Keep in mind that I write the below from a "Contesters perspective" but
> maybe toned down for lower FT8 expectations.
> The official flag day for the new 77-bit FT8 messages was Monday Dec 14
> with the release of WSJT 2.0.0. Within a day almost all the activity had
> flipped over the the new version.
> I spent many hours (20+ hours) trying it out, with "RR73" turned on to get
> max rates, and it is an improvement. I had also been involved a little bit
> with pre-release WSJT software in the mock-contest hours and the "FT8 mock
> test" the first weekend of December.
> With the new WSJT 2.0.0 FT8, my peak S&P rate approaches one QSO a minute,
> my peak run rate approaches one QSO every 90 seconds, and my average rate
> over an hour is s 20 or more. It is hard to achieve peak rates on a super
> packed busy band like 20M FT8 but on a WARC band or "off peak" band it's
> quite achievable.
> Contrast that with the old WSJT where my typical FT8 rate in an hour was 8
> to 12 QSO's an hour.
> Now, in a real RTTY contest, 20 an hour is NOT something to write home
> about. It's dullsville, like maybe I should be doing something more fun
> like mopping the kitchen floor or raking leaves. But it is a real
> improvement for FT8 rate.
> I DO NOT PLAN to do ANY FT8 in RTTY Roundup. Again, 20 an hour is a bad
> rate if you are trying to enter that competitively.
> Tim N3QE
> Hardcore RTTY contester
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