[CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1

[rjairam at gmail.com]

Ed,

Would the situation be different for someone formerly stationed at
Wake Island who moved back stateside and still retains their KH9 call?

Just curious as to where you draw the line.

Ria
N2RJ

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Actually, if you look at spots for 4U1WB when Masa operates outside of
> contests – he generates A LOT of interest because of the unusual situation
> and uniqueness of 4U1WB.  When I operate as AC1U, I generate no such special
> interest.
>
>
>
> Nothing prevents Masa from legally using AJ3M at the WB station.  It’s a
> duly licensed FCC radio operator operating a station in the US.  There are
> no “station licenses” in the US.  Only operators in locations.
>
>
>
> If the point of being on this weekend is to hand out DC, he would be way
> better off being AJ3M than 4U1WB.  The opposite is the case in WPX.
>
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> 73
>
>
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> Ed  N1UR
>
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> From: David Siddall [mailto:hhamwv at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:49 AM
> To: cq-contest
> Cc: Ria Jairam; sawyered at earthlink.net
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>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1
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> Come on, Ed, you know better.  In WPX, there is no advantage of using 4U1
> over, say, AC1.
>
>
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> Masa's main station is 4U1WB, whether its WPX or any other contest.  N1UR,
> on the other hand, became AC1U for the two weekends and was the only AC1 in
> the same contests.  K3ZJ became WR8AA in a part-time effort on one of the
> weekends too.  All three of us were on equal ground callsign-wise.  We each
> used a callsign that, at least for entries, had a unique prefix.
>
>
>
> But among us, only Masa used the everyday normal callsign for the station he
> operates from.  And you were the only one to make a serious competitive
> effort.
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> BTW, had Masa operated elsewhere and used his personal callsign (AJ3M), it
> also would have been a unique callsign in both modes.
>
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> There is nothing wrong with any of this, but I would conclude that you used
> a rare callsign to gain a competitive advantage; I used one to give out a
> mult during my limited time on the air;  and Masa just used the callsign of
> the station he operated, as he usually does.
>
>
>
> So to say that "it does not seem fair"  is, to me, twisted.  Masa just did
> his normal thing at his normal station.  You did not.
>
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> 73, Dave
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:43 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> You can put in the effort to improve antennas and location.  But no matter
> how much effort you put in, you can’t make up a call sign like 4U1WB.  It
> has to be bestowed on you.
>
>
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> In the ARRL DX contest – its of no value – in fact its clearly a hinderence.
> Being right, but having to repeat and explain is a contest killer.  But in
> WPX, no one cares where you are (other than wondering why the points for the
> Q don’t look right), they just know they need a new prefix.  Add that to the
> fact that some percentage of callers probably think they just worked a new
> one (4U1 must be UN HQ no?) and its just not good sportsmanship in my
> opinion.
>
>
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> 4U1WB and any other 4U1 should compete for NA not for W.
>
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> 73
>
>
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
>
>
> From: rjairam at gmail.com [mailto:rjairam at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:26 AM
> To: sawyered at earthlink.net
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1
>
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>
> Fair? Nothing is fair... might as well require everyone to operate with the
> same antennas and location while you’re at it.
>
> Ria
> N2RJ
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:23 AM Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Masa, Why don't you just get a W3 call sign and avoid this mess?  You will
> never be competitive in ARRL DX having to explain who you are.  I am sure
> that many DX stations would be very happy to work a W3 from DC.
>
>
>
> As to WPX, a 4U1 callsign is clearly an advantage in a Prefix contest.  It
> does  not seem fair to me that a 4U1 can compete equally with a W1 in the
> WPX contest.
>
>
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
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