[CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1

[rjairam at gmail.com]

When I worked at the UN at the secretariat building in New York it was
considered not US soil and they broke a lot of city regulations - smoking
in offices and the delegates lounge for example. The only recourse the city
had was to place sanctions (really) on them such as suspending school tours.

SO FCC rules would likely not apply, and thus he couldn’t use his personal
call using the world bank equipment.


Ria
N2RJ

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 1:20 PM Richard F. DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Actually, the World Bank rules may prevent AJ3M from using his personal
> callsign at the World Bank Station.  Some clubs require that you use the
> club call while using club equipment.
>
> 73 Rich NN3W
>
>
> On 2/15/2018 10:18 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote:
> > Actually, if you look at spots for 4U1WB when Masa operates outside of
> contests – he generates A LOT of interest because of the unusual situation
> and uniqueness of 4U1WB.  When I operate as AC1U, I generate no such
> special interest.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nothing prevents Masa from legally using AJ3M at the WB station.  It’s a
> duly licensed FCC radio operator operating a station in the US.  There are
> no “station licenses” in the US.  Only operators in locations.
> >
> >
> >
> > If the point of being on this weekend is to hand out DC, he would be way
> better off being AJ3M than 4U1WB.  The opposite is the case in WPX.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed  N1UR
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David Siddall [mailto:hhamwv at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:49 AM
> > To: cq-contest
> > Cc: Ria Jairam; sawyered at earthlink.net
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1
> >
> >
> >
> > Come on, Ed, you know better.  In WPX, there is no advantage of using
> 4U1 over, say, AC1.
> >
> >
> >
> > Masa's main station is 4U1WB, whether its WPX or any other contest.
> N1UR, on the other hand, became AC1U for the two weekends and was the only
> AC1 in the same contests.  K3ZJ became WR8AA in a part-time effort on one
> of the weekends too.  All three of us were on equal ground callsign-wise.
> We each used a callsign that, at least for entries, had a unique prefix.
> >
> >
> >
> > But among us, only Masa used the everyday normal callsign for the
> station he operates from.  And you were the only one to make a serious
> competitive effort.
> >
> >
> >
> > BTW, had Masa operated elsewhere and used his personal callsign (AJ3M),
> it also would have been a unique callsign in both modes.
> >
> >
> >
> > There is nothing wrong with any of this, but I would conclude that you
> used a rare callsign to gain a competitive advantage; I used one to give
> out a mult during my limited time on the air;  and Masa just used the
> callsign of the station he operated, as he usually does.
> >
> >
> >
> > So to say that "it does not seem fair"  is, to me, twisted.  Masa just
> did his normal thing at his normal station.  You did not.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73, Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:43 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > You can put in the effort to improve antennas and location.  But no
> matter how much effort you put in, you can’t make up a call sign like
> 4U1WB.  It has to be bestowed on you.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the ARRL DX contest – its of no value – in fact its clearly a
> hinderence.  Being right, but having to repeat and explain is a contest
> killer.  But in WPX, no one cares where you are (other than wondering why
> the points for the Q don’t look right), they just know they need a new
> prefix.  Add that to the fact that some percentage of callers probably
> think they just worked a new one (4U1 must be UN HQ no?) and its just not
> good sportsmanship in my opinion.
> >
> >
> >
> > 4U1WB and any other 4U1 should compete for NA not for W.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed  N1UR
> >
> >
> >
> > From: rjairam at gmail.com [mailto:rjairam at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:26 AM
> > To: sawyered at earthlink.net
> > Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1
> >
> >
> >
> > Fair? Nothing is fair... might as well require everyone to operate with
> the same antennas and location while you’re at it.
> >
> > Ria
> > N2RJ
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:23 AM Ed Sawyer <sawyered at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Masa, Why don't you just get a W3 call sign and avoid this mess?  You
> will
> > never be competitive in ARRL DX having to explain who you are.  I am sure
> > that many DX stations would be very happy to work a W3 from DC.
> >
> >
> >
> > As to WPX, a 4U1 callsign is clearly an advantage in a Prefix contest.
> It
> > does  not seem fair to me that a 4U1 can compete equally with a W1 in the
> > WPX contest.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed  N1UR
> >
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