[CQ-Contest] Contest Recording
W0MU Mike Fatchett
w0mu at w0mu.com
Sun Jan 28 20:22:28 EST 2018
Thanks for clarifying that Tom. If they had your recording they could
have jumped easily to my conclusion.....they must have been using a
remote receiver etc.....Very dangerous if they are already going into a
situation with a bias.
I would like to know if these recordings have ever been the determining
factor on a DQ? If not, why are we wasting our time with it?
W0MU
On 1/28/2018 5:15 PM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
> Based on my observations, I suspect there was some one-way propagation
> going on. The first time it happened, it was WTF!?! It happened
> maybe half a dozen times over the weekend from ops who I consider to
> be very good ops. I know some of them personally, and that is NOT how
> they roll. One way propagation would explain what I heard. Seems I
> am not the only one to observe this over the last weekend.
>
> The whole point was - an SDR recording would not have captured this
> the same way I heard it.
>
> Yes - loosing your run frequency is part of the game. It happens.
> You can either stick it out and not make any Q's, or try and find a
> new run frequency and start over... Sometimes, its just easier to move...
>
> Tom - VE3CX
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 2:22 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com
> <mailto:w0mu at w0mu.com>> wrote:
>
> What exactly would a recording of what you received proved? That
> they moved into your spot? It does not prove anything else. I
> suspect you are trying to say they were listening on an SDR which
> may or may not be true. How could you prove it. Later it turns
> out that maybe it was conditions? This is where things get really
> dicey.
>
> Taking over someones spot is part of the game like it or not. I
> watched numerous time where East coast stations continued to creep
> in on me from both sides. Not much I can do.
>
> W0MU
>
>
>
> On 1/28/2018 9:27 AM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
>
> I see there is a (continuing) controversy about contest
> recording. My
> understanding is the for the CQWW at least, the contest is
> recorded from
> several locations around the world by SDR receivers and then
> shipped to the
> contest committee.
>
> I was very much in the camp of “Well – if the contest
> committee wants to
> hear what happened on the air, they have the time, date and
> frequency, as
> well as a recording if they want to hear what happened."
> Until last night
> in the CQ 160 contest, and no, I did not record it.
>
> A few times, someone got pretty close to me, and in one case,
> started CQing
> right on top of me. Fair disclosure – I run a KW into a full
> size vertical,
> and these guys were LOUD. A few times, I even checked the amp
> and the
> wattmeter to make sure things were working, and I was starting
> to seriously
> wonder about a few folks... Once, twice... OK, something odd
> is going
> on... A few times when I reverted to S&P, I called a few
> loud guys, and
> it took them several tries for them to pull out my call. This
> was not
> normal.
>
>
> As we all know, 160 is an interesting band and still pulls up
> a few
> surprises now and then. This being the latest example. An
> SDR would not
> have captured what I experienced - the only way to capture
> this would be a
> personal recording.
>
> Just food for thought.
>
>
> Tom - VE3CX
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