[CQ-Contest] Contest Recording

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

Thanks for clarifying that Tom.  If they had your recording they could 
have jumped easily to my conclusion.....they must have been using a 
remote receiver etc.....Very dangerous if they are already going into a 
situation with a bias.

I would like to know if these recordings have ever been the determining 
factor on a DQ?  If not, why are we wasting our time with it?

W0MU


On 1/28/2018 5:15 PM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
> Based on my observations, I suspect there was some one-way propagation 
> going on.  The first time it happened, it was WTF!?!  It happened 
> maybe half a dozen times over the weekend from ops who I consider to 
> be very good ops.  I know some of them personally, and that is NOT how 
> they roll.  One way propagation would explain what I heard.  Seems I 
> am not the only one to observe this over the last weekend.
>
> The whole point was - an SDR recording would not have captured this 
> the same way I heard it.
>
> Yes - loosing your run frequency is part of the game.  It happens.  
> You can either stick it out and not make any Q's, or try and find a 
> new run frequency and start over...  Sometimes, its just easier to move...
>
> Tom - VE3CX
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 2:22 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu at w0mu.com 
> <mailto:w0mu at w0mu.com>> wrote:
>
>     What exactly would a recording of what you received proved?  That
>     they moved into your spot?  It does not prove anything else.  I
>     suspect you are trying to say they were listening on an SDR which
>     may or may not be true.  How could you prove it.    Later it turns
>     out that maybe it was conditions? This is where things get really
>     dicey.
>
>     Taking over someones spot is part of the game like it or not.  I
>     watched numerous time where East coast stations continued to creep
>     in on me from both sides.  Not much I can do.
>
>     W0MU
>
>
>
>     On 1/28/2018 9:27 AM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
>
>         I see there is a (continuing) controversy about contest
>         recording. My
>         understanding is the for the CQWW at least, the contest is
>         recorded from
>         several locations around the world by SDR receivers and then
>         shipped to the
>         contest committee.
>
>         I was very much in the camp of “Well – if the contest
>         committee wants to
>         hear what happened on the air, they have the time, date and
>         frequency, as
>         well as a recording if they want to hear what happened." 
>         Until last night
>         in the CQ 160 contest, and no, I did not record it.
>
>         A few times, someone got pretty close to me, and in one case,
>         started CQing
>         right on top of me. Fair disclosure – I run a KW into a full
>         size vertical,
>         and these guys were LOUD.  A few times, I even checked the amp
>         and the
>         wattmeter to make sure things were working, and I was starting
>         to seriously
>         wonder about a few folks...  Once, twice... OK, something odd
>         is going
>         on...   A few times when I reverted to S&P, I called a few
>         loud guys, and
>         it took them several tries for them to pull out my call.  This
>         was not
>         normal.
>
>
>         As we all know, 160 is an interesting band and still pulls up
>         a few
>         surprises now and then.  This being the latest example.  An
>         SDR would not
>         have captured what I experienced - the only way to capture
>         this would be a
>         personal recording.
>
>         Just food for thought.
>
>
>         Tom - VE3CX
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