[CQ-Contest] CQWW SSB 2017 Effective DQ

Bill Fehring bill+cqc at w9kkn.net
Wed Jan 31 18:23:01 EST 2018

Why not just ask the “are you competing for a top 10 finish” question at
log submission time instead of relying on pre-registration?

Why not just look at the claimed score and indicate how it would have
placed against last year’s results in the same category? Maybe to suggest
“hey looks like you probably did really good so we are probably going to
ask you for recordings later, why not get that out of the way now?”

Why not just collect/upload the recordings as part of the log submission
process for all entries just in case? Perhaps start it off as optional, but
eventually have a few serious contests inch toward making it a bit less
than optional for award eligiblility. Would also love to see them publicly
posted with the logs to use as practice files.

Finally, would love to see at least one contest show the pre-judge score/
stats (confirmed/unconfirmed/not in log) / entry category rankings change
in real time as logs are uploaded.

73, Bill/W9KKN

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:17 AM, Richard F. DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w at gmail.com
> wrote:

> How about allowing entrants to declare up to 12 hours after the start of
> the contest?  This would allow operators to recognize equipment failures,
> changing conditions, etc.
> For example, if a SOAB-LP(A) entrant decided that he'd had enough of
> operating LP and being killed in packet pileups, he'd be eligible to switch
> to -HP(A).
> If a person was planning on doing SOSB(15) and found that conditions on 15
> were craptastic, he could switch to all band or switch to SOSB(40) or
> SOSB(20).
> Obviously I think its a harder argument to go from a more "expansive"
> category to a more narrow category (going from HP to LP or LP to QRP or
> going from Assisted to unassisted).
> But, things do change during a contest and folks need to have a little
> leeway.
> 73 Rich NN3W
> On 1/31/2018 10:10 AM, Jeff Clarke wrote:
>> Tom,
>> I was thinking more along the line that you wouldn't register for a
>> specific category (.i.e .15 meter single band) but just that you are
>> planning on operating in some SB category seriously where you could
>> possibly have a top 5 finish. That would give you the flexibility to change
>> your category right before the contest starts. For example say you planned
>> on doing 15 single band and and right before the contest the conditions
>> went sour and you decide to switched to 20 single. This would allow you to
>> do this.
>> Jeff
>> On 1/30/2018 9:51 PM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
>>> I would be fine with this, but it will take time (a few years) for folks
>>> to get used to the idea of pre-registering for a category.
>>> That said, I want to point out something that happened to me a few years
>>> ago:  I was all set to do a SOABHP.  Five minutes before the contest, I
>>> turned on the amp to let it warm up and there was a big bang as the power
>>> supply let go. Needless to say, no QSO's made in the contest (had not yet
>>> started), and I ran as LP.  IF we go down this road, I would hope there is
>>> some room to change categories to account for last minute equipment
>>> issues.  Perhaps a post contest explanation of "Here is what happened..."
>>> Tom - VE3CX
>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 7:36 PM, Jeff Clarke <ku8e at ku8e.com <mailto:
>>> ku8e at ku8e.com>> wrote:
>>>     Here's an idea. Why not have a pre-registration process before the
>>>     contest that you are going to be a serious entry? Much like we
>>>     register teams for the NA Sprint and NAQP.  Only entries that
>>>     follow this process will be eligible for plaques and certificates.
>>>     If someone doesn't do this ( just playing around??) their score
>>>     can still be listed and not classified as an administrative entry.
>>>     For those that choose to follow this process state the rules or
>>>     conditions (i.e recording the contest) on the web page this form
>>>     is located on. This will eliminate any confusion anyone might have.
>>>     I would even be willing to help CQ with the coding to implement
>>>     this. I've done similar stuff on my web pages for ku8e.com
>>>     <http://ku8e.com> and the Georgia QSO Party. You fill out a form,
>>>     it stores that information in a mySQL database and sends a
>>>     confirmation email to the person who submitted the form.
>>>     BTW I didn't know the story about MM0LID until I read this email
>>>     thread. Not only did it appear he cheated using a made up call
>>>     sign but also violated FCC rules. When something like this gets
>>>     out it sure doesn't help your reputation and it's going to raise
>>>     red flags for a contest sponsor every time you submit an entry.
>>>     Jeff KU8E
>>>     --     *Jeff Clarke
>>>     * Information Technology Professional
>>>     Ellerslie, Georgia
>>>     My LinkedIn Profile <https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-clarke-ga
>>>     <https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-clarke-ga>>
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