[CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying

Sat Jul 7 22:30:44 EDT 2018

Hi Ría,
That to me is not the main thing (people being left out because they do not
have access to a super duper station).
WRTC has gone a long way with a system that is mostly based on trust.
I know it is how we like to see our hobby: a game of honorable people.
Indeed it is for the most part (casual entrants, certain regions), but not
so amongst the highly competitive stations.
If we are talking competition here, then it is not just a game and no one
could be considered honorable solely based on trust.
WRTC being the only real competition,  should ensure the ones reaching the
event are the real deserving operators.
Deep inside we all know how things worked out in the field during the last
three qualifying runs. And it got worse when DLs gave the same weight to
Low Power entries...

Martin LU5DX

El sáb., 7 jul. 2018 11:03 p. m., rjairam at gmail.com <rjairam at gmail.com>
escribió:

> I’m looking at my case. Under the current criteria I have not a shot in
> hell. Mostly because I’m competing with W1 who has an obvious geographic
> advantage. When it was aligned with US Call districts it was a bit easier,
> but I didn’t really try to qualify then.
>
> I guess the dream will have to wait, or I could spend money and build a
> station in the Caribbean and operate, remotely even.
>
> I don’t think it will be possible to be completely fair but qualification
> rules should prioritize skill first if this is going to be a competition of
> who is the best operator. There are of course some damned good operators in
> there but I think some who may not have access to a super duper station get
> left out.
>
> 73
> Ria
> N2RJ
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e at ku8e.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >       6. Qualification Score Calculation
> >
> > The qualification score is the sum of up to 12 Event Scores. The maximum
> > possible qualification score is 12.000 for DL, 11.900 for the rest of
> > the world.
> >
> >  1. A maximum of 4 Event Scores may be from multi-ops (MS/M2/MM).
> >  2. A maximum of 4 Event Scores can be from outside an applicant’s home
> >     Selection Area (i.e., DXpeditions).
> >  3. A maximum of 2 operators may submit scores for a single contest from
> >     a MS, 3 from a M2, and 4 from a MM.
> >  4. If an operator’s callsign appears with more than one entry in a
> >     single qualifying event (e.g., from operating at more than one
> >     station), they may not use any scores from that contest.
> >  5. In the unlikely case of a tie score for the final qualifying spot in
> >     a Selection Area, the applicants will be asked for additional scores
> >     beyond those submitted on the application until the tie is broken.
> >
> > As long as you operate a station in your own qualification area as a SO
> > it counts. That would ether be from home OR as a guest operator. That's
> > how you could qualify without having a station at home.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > On 7/7/2018 05:38 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
> > > What if you had no home station, let alone a tribander with wires,
> could
> > you qualify then?
> > > Tim / N6WIN
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> > >
> > >
> > > On Saturday, July 7, 2018, 14:16, Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, this was the first time one could qualify using low power.
> > > Notwithstanding you have to have big antenna farm because even in Low
> > > power category there were a lot of competitors. And yes, some of those
> > > who have big stations did bother with doing low power. Tribander and
> > > wires from the city lot is not enough to qualify for WRTC regardless of
> > > power.
> > >
> > > 73, Igor UA9CDC
> > >
> > >
> > > 07.07.2018 22:03, Jeff Clarke пишет:
> > >> It's possible to qualify by doing low power. Your score would be
> > >> compared to others that are doing low power and not the high power
> > >> scores. If you do that you won't have to compete again the "big gun"
> > >> stations in your region. Plus you aren't getting any reduction in
> > >> score ( getting the same number of points same as HP SO guys) like
> > >> someone who did Multi-Ops. I really doubt someone who has a big
> > >> station would want to bother with doing low power.
> > >>
> > >> If I'm not mistaken Julio, AD4Z, who is one of the team leaders in our
> > >> region (NA-002) did this and qualified.
> > >>
> > >> Jeff KU8E
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 7/6/2018 11:11 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
> > >>> I think what’s most interesting is the guys I know who typically win
> > >>> don’t spend a lot of time complaining... they spend a lot of time
> > >>> working at what makes them winners.
> > >>> I can also think of some people who won/win that don’t have deep
> > >>> pockets at all.
> > >>> Some of the best operators don’t actually have big stations. Not
> > >>> taking away from the big station owners at all, as some of them are
> > >>> great operators themselves. However, many are willing to let the
> > >>> latest up and coming great operators take their station seats to show
> > >>> what can be done.
> > >>> It makes sense to me because it takes a lot of time and effort to
> > >>> either build or work to pay for others to build something expensive.
> > >>> That same time is thus not spent on honing operating skills.
> > >>> Very similar to how many athletes aren’t rich until after (and not
> > >>> for all) they have worked so very hard to win and are given
> noteriety.
> > >>> If a guy wants to remote or travel into my area and he beats me, so
> > >>> be it... time for me to get better. Or maybe I don’t want to put in
> > >>> the same operating skills effort that he did and thus I’ll just hope
> > >>> he doesn’t return.
> > >>> Competition is great... it shows how hard we are willing to work, or
> > >>> not.
> > >>> Tim / N6WIN.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Friday, July 6, 2018, 14:45, Jim via CQ-Contest
> > >>> <cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I have a somewhat different perspective, being an Ohio snowbird who
> > >>> spends half the year in Florida. As a practical matter I could not
> > >>> qualify without a lot of travel or remote operating from W8. And I’m
> > >>> not that stupid to head north from Florida in February  :-)
> > >>>
> > >>> I had my shot at WRTC in 2014 (as N1U with partner K9NW), but I
> > >>> didn’t compete to qualify for 2018, and don’t see me trying to
> > >>> qualify for future WRTCs, so don’t take these comments as being self
> > >>> serving.
> > >>>
> > >>> If a W6 resident wants to operate from W1, let him do so, comparing
> > >>> his scores with other W1 entrants. And conversely, if a guy living in
> > >>> W1 is crazy enough to want to operate CQWW from W6, thinking the
> > >>> qualifying competition there might be less, why stop him? Again,
> > >>> compare his W6 score with other W6 scores, and let the WRTC
> > >>> qualifying points go into his home W1 account.
> > >>>
> > >>> So long as a person is a legitimate resident of his qualifying area,
> > >>> why stop him from operating from anywhere in the world, whether in
> > >>> person or remotely? I don’t have a problem to allow someone like
> > >>> LZ4AX to qualify from W3, but I would not let people become
> > >>> “Africans” solely by virtue of a bunch of operating from zone 33.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> 73  -  Jim    K8MR
> > >>>
> > >>> p.s.  Keep in mind the motto of the Florida Contest Group: Sooner or
> > >>> later, you’ll be one of us!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 4:16 PM, WW3S <ww3s at zoominternet.net> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> A west coast ham, operating a remote station with antennas in Maine,
> > >>>> should be competing as if he/she were physically in Maine.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sent from my iPad
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 11:56 PM, David Siddall <hhamwv at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> A W6 ham resident in California that operates a station on the east
> > >>>>> coast,
> > >>>>> whether by physical or remote means, could not qualify to be a team
> > >>>>> leader
> > >>>>> for the WRTC2018.  Rule 7.5 - 7.7, subject to Rule 6.2.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 73, Dave K3ZJ
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Carol Richards <n2mm at comcast.net>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I agree....where you operate _from_ should determine what region
> you
> > >>>>>> compete in. A W6 in California operating a remote station on the
> > >>>>>> East coast
> > >>>>>> should not be grouped with other East coast stations to qualify
> > >>>>>> for WRTC.
> > >>>>>> This remote category is getting out of hand.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Carol
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