[CQ-Contest] Pileups and calling freqs

Dave Edmonds dave at pkministrywebs.com
Mon Nov 26 17:56:54 EST 2018

What would be considered QRQ needed to break the pileups for the CQWW
contest? I heard many stations running at 40+ and D41CV was probably to the
fastest I heard...who knows how fast he was going. I'll QRQ in the
future... Seems like speeds were fast at the start of the contest... got
slower in the middle and then picked-up at the end. 73s Dave WN4AFP

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 5:49 PM Gerry Hull <gerry at yccc.org> wrote:

> I found that to be very true this weekend: (polar path) + pretty unique
> suffix (AAA) =able to break many pileups easily.
> Pretty large pileups on my end -- always easy to pick out high-side or
> low-side ops, and of course QRQ guys stood out.
> 73, Gerry W1VE (@VY1AAA)
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018, 3:26 PM Bob Shohet, KQ2M <kq2m at kq2m.com wrote:
> > I often pull out a callsign or part of a callsign by discerning the
> > difference in the “beats” between loud guys calling on exactly the same
> > frequency - the ever-present qsb makes that possible.  And there are
> > usually differences in speed of the callers.  This technique works best
> > when at least one station of the same signal strength is calling at a QRQ
> > speed.   Of course now that it has become routine for at least one EU
> > station to endlessly call regardless of who I ask for, the technique has
> > become less effective, but still it is valuable.
> >
> > I always prefer to listen at the edges of a pileup, it’s become second
> > nature for me.  The smarter ops routinely call that way knowing that the
> > better ops usually listen on either side of their transmit freq.   And
> the
> > qrp guys usually beat out the other loud stations because they are not
> > trying to fight with the “big guys”, but rather, just to be heard.  So
> they
> > use strategy as to how, when and where to call.  In my pileups (like this
> > weekend), you either have to be really loud, super fast or a bit off
> freq.
> > to get right through.  It is easiest to be off freq.   :-)   This works
> > even better if you have polar flutter on your signal as a GOOD op will
> > notice that THIS caller sounds different and that usually either means
> > ground wave or a polar path signal.  Polar path always gets my attention
> as
> > it usually means an interesting DX station, and frequently a new mult.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Bob, KQ2M
> >
> >
> > From: Bill kollenbaum via CQ-Contest
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 1:34 PM
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Pileups and calling freqs
> >
> > After listening to howling pileups all weekend, I have a tip for some of
> > the less experienced guys.
> > When 5, 10 or 15 guys are all calling on the same freq, especially with
> > AGC on it sounds like one tone with QSB.  Unless you have a huge signal
> you
> > sound like part of the single tone.  Do yourself a favor and go up or
> down
> > a bit and call.  You would not believe how many of the lesser signals I
> > responded to since I could hear them slightly up or down.  Since QRM is
> not
> > as big an issue as back on the mainland I can run with the filters wider
> > and have no problem with guys calling off freq.
> > I'm sure many of the big guns have the same issue.
> > Bill K4XS (KH7B, KH7XS)
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Dave Edmonds
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