[CQ-Contest] WSJT-X For contests - Dry Run

[RT Clay]

That is not correct: FT8 is combined with CW and SSB in VHF contests. There it is very annoying for example to deal with a 30/Q hour rate (or whatever the max FT8 rate is) in a big Es opening, when you could run at 150/hour on SSB. Or to have to work local stations on MSK144 (digital meteor scatter mode) because they no longer listen to 144.200 SSB/CW.

Tor
N4OGW

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On Thu, 10/25/18, David Gilbert <xdavid at cis-broadband.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WSJT-X For contests - Dry Run
 To: cq-contest at contesting.com
 Date: Thursday, October 25, 2018, 3:09 AM
 
 
 What do you care
 what the data modes are evolving into if you don't use
 
 them (even RTTY) and they don't affect
 the CW and SSB contests that you 
 do use?
 
 I don't get it.  Amateur
 radio is thankfully a lot broader than your 
 definition of it, and for the most part manages
 to keep the various 
 modes segregated enough
 to satisfy everyone.   It makes zero sense to 
 bitch about what other people do if they
 aren't negatively affecting 
 you.  That
 doesn't make you old, or outdated ... it makes you a
 bigot.
 
 "Bigot: A
 /bigot/ is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any 
 opinions differing from their own."
 
 Dave   AB7E
 
 
 
 On
 10/23/2018 1:50 PM, Paul O'Kane wrote:
 > As we move ever closer to fully-automated
 data modes, the divide 
 > between data
 and
 > non-data modes gets bigger.  When
 and if the operator becomes 
 >
 incidental, what will
 > be the point of
 such contest QSOs - other than bragging that my 
 > software is smarter
 >
 than yours?
 >
 > WSJT-X
 may be the "flavour of the month" now - but, next
 month, or 
 > certainly next
 > year, something "better" will
 turn up - as the potential for "new and 
 > improved" data
 >
 modes is limitless.  Some see this as progress in amateur
 radio and 
 > contesting - I see
 > it as progress in automated two-way data
 processing over RF.
 >
 > It seems to me that any mode that is not
 and can not be decoded by 
 >
 individual
 > contesters (people) in
 real-time does not truly represent amateur 
 > radio.  But what
 >
 would  I know, being just an old-fashioned (outdated?)
 contester who 
 > keeps to
 > phone and CW :-)
 >
 > Some will argue that we have to keep up,
 we can't stop progress, and 
 > that
 amateur
 > radio and contesting are
 evolving.  I say that data modes are evolving 
 > into something
 > else
 entirely.
 >
 > 73,
 > Paul EI5DI
 >
 
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