[CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops

[Jeff Clarke]

Here is a suggestion based on what I know about propagation :

NA #1 - 2 teams - W1/W2 - Maybe separate this into two regions. One for 
W1 and the other for W2

NA #2 - 1 team - Canada - VE1-VE3, VO1/2, VY2, FP

NA #3 - 1 Team - WV, VA and NC and W3 (remove one team from current rules)

NA #4 - 1 Team  - W8 (OH/MI only), W9, KY, TN

NA #5 - 1 Team - SC, GA, FL, AL

NA #6 - 1 Team - W5 - (TX, LA, AR and MS only)

NA #7 - 1 Team -WA, OR, ID, WY, UT and MT

NA #8 - 1 Team - VE4-VE8, VY1 and KL7

NA #9 - 1 Team - W6, UT, AZ, NV

NA #10 - 1 Team - CO, NM (from W5), NE,ND

NA #11 (New region) - 1 Team -  MO, MN, IA, KS, SD


Jeff



On 1/2/2019 02:22 PM, donovanf at starpower.net wrote:
> Its the same situation if you're in Tennessee or Kentucky competing
> against Delaware. You're only hope is to guest or remote operate
> from much further east.
>
>
> Under these rules, you're only hope for being selected as a Team Leader is to:
>
>
> - own, guest op or remote operate a SOHP SO2R mega-station in a
> favorable location for DX contests, or
>
>
> - find a guest operator opportunity at a somewhat less capable SOHP
> station in the less competitive selection areas (you can figure out
> which ones they might be...).
>
>
> - perhaps compete in the still-undefined WRTC-Style MS or M2 category
>
>
> As everyone knows or should know -- contest rules are not, never
> have been, and can never be completely fair. You make whatever
> adjustments you can to improve your capabilities and your set realistic
> goals. Most importantly enjoy yourself, if you can't do that you're
> in the wrong game.
>
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb at gmail.com>
> To: "Karel Matousek" <ok1cf at atlas.cz>
> Cc: "Rastislav Hrnko" <om3bh at centrum.sk>, k5zd at charter.net, "Contest Reflector" <cq-contest at contesting.com>, "Mats Strandberg" <sm6lrr at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 4:34:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops
>
> And Minnesota is in the same group with West Virginia.
>
> Did they just throw darts at a map?
>
> 73, de Hans, K0HB
> “Just a Boy and his Radio”™
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 09:28 Karel Matousek <ok1cf at atlas.cz> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> UA6 it is a completely different world than here in central Europe. I
>> cannot believe that someone could invent such stupidity and put OK/OM and
>> UA6 into one group. I agree with Rasta OM3BH.
>>
>>
>>
>> Karel OK1CF/OK5W
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Od: "Rastislav Hrnko" <om3bh at centrum.sk>
>>> Komu: k5zd at charter.net, "'Mats Strandberg'" <sm6lrr at gmail.com>, "'
>> cq-contest at contesting.com'" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Datum: 02.01.2019 14:16
>>> Předmět: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops
>>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Does anyone have a worse idea to include UA6 region together with OK, OM
>> etc.... ??? Why not with UA9 ...?
>> It would never have occurred to me.
>>
>>
>> 73 HNY Rasťo OM3BH
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>> Od: k5zd at charter.net
>>> Komu: "'Mats Strandberg'" <sm6lrr at gmail.com>, "'
>> cq-contest at contesting.com'" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>> Dátum: 02.01.2019 07:24
>>> Predmet: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops
>>>
>> It is up to the organizers, but in the past, this only meant that all
>> single band scores were compared to the all band scores. Not that a
>> single band entry could win and get the full qualifying points unless
>> their score was higher than the top all band entry.
>> It is possible in a contest like WPX for a single band entry to have a
>> higher score than the all band entries. In this case, it makes sense
>> that the single band entry would get the full qualifying points. But,
>> in most cases, it will be the all band score that sets the standard.
>>
>> Regardless of the past, you are correct that the rules as written do
>> not specify this clearly.
>> Randy K5ZD
>>
>> -----------------------------------------From: "Mats Strandberg"
>> To: cqtestk4xs at aol.com
>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>> Sent: Tuesday January 1 2019 9:30:11AM
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rules for WRTC...oops
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Exactly the same struck me...
>>
>> A station with a decent antenna for any single band, can quite easily
>> reach
>> Full Score in 12 contests, while the very skilled SO2R All Band
>> operator,
>> quite easily can end up not on full score in some of the contests,
>> due to
>> much higher competition, with the result that the Single Band guy can
>> grab
>> that TL ticket quite easily.
>>
>> Or Bill, do we both miss something in the “small text” of the
>> rules?
>>
>> 73 de RM2D, Mats
>>
>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2019 at 16:03, Bill kollenbaum via CQ-Contest <
>> cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A couple of things popped out at me.
>>> If I read the rules correctly:
>>> Single band entries count the same as all band entries...big
>> problem.
>>> Station VP5XYZ operates with a smallt station on a band from which
>> there
>>> are usually not any single band efforts...160 or 10. He operates
>> for a
>>> couple of hours and winds up with 30 or 40 Qs. VP5ABC does AB and
>> makes
>>> 7000 Qs but finishes nr 2 for his area. VP5XYZ gets more WRTC
>> credit than
>>> the guy who busted butt for 40+ hours at VP5ABC. This could happen
>> in many
>>> of the qualifying areas.
>>> In qualifying zones which are sparsely populated, what happens if
>> no one
>>> gets 25% of the top operator's score...no one goes from that
>> district?
>>> Bill KH7XS/K4XS
>>>
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*Jeff Clarke*
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