[CQ-Contest] CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 198, Issue 13
GIWagner@k5kg.com
giwagner at k5kg.com
Tue Jun 11 14:00:49 EDT 2019
Who uses "list server"? Isn't that term antiquated?
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> 1. Where did "Reflector" come from? (N4ZR)
> 2. WRTC 2022 qualification standings are available ! (IK1HJS)
> 3. Re: Where did "Reflector" come from? (Barry)
> 4. Re: Where did "Reflector" come from? (Zack Widup)
> 5. Re: Where did "Reflector" come from? (rjairam at gmail.com)
> 6. Re: Where did "Reflector" come from? (John Geiger)
> 7. Re: Where did "Reflector" come from? (Radio K?HB)
> 8. Re: Where did "Reflector" come from? (Dave Thompson)
> 9. Re: Where did "Reflector" come from? (Michael Adams)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 17:20:43 -0400
> From: N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net>
> To: reflector cq-contest <CQ-Contest at Contesting.COM>
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Where did "Reflector" come from?
> Message-ID: <36c419d2-fb81-0402-78a9-657641191b32 at comcast.net>
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> I first became a member of the Towertalk reflector at least 25 years
> ago, when there was no CQ-Contest and we felt the need to mention
> "tower" or "antenna" somewhere in our contesting-related messages to
> avoid (we thought) the moderator's wrath.
>
> Looking back, do any of you greybeards out there remember where the name
> "reflector" came from? I much prefer it to "list" or "listserv"
>
> --
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 01:39:23 +0200
> From: IK1HJS <ik1hjs at gmail.com>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WRTC 2022 qualification standings are available
> !
> Message-ID: <b2aaa633-c547-1c36-4fa9-49e25fcc5d93 at gmail.com>
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> WRTC 2022 qualification standings are available under the
> COMPETITION:http://wrtc2022.it/en/?page_id=470
>
> The Qualification Standings show unofficial points and rankings based on
> files and communications received from each Contest Organizing Committee.
>
> Claimed scores,if available,will be considered until official scores are
> available.
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> The WRTC2022 Organizing Committee reserves the right to modify the
> qualification process to correct errors or provide clarification. Any
> change will be announced on the WRTC2022 Web site.
>
> Please refer to the History of uploads.
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> Questions regarding the qualification standings may be submitted to
> qualification at wrtc2022.it. <mailto:qualification at wrtc2022.it>
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> A frequently asked questions (FAQ) page will be available on the
> WRTC2022 Web site to provideclarifications as necessary.
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> 73 de Carlo IK1HJS
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 20:18:26 -0600
> From: Barry <w2up at comcast.net>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Where did "Reflector" come from?
> Message-ID: <964c63e7-9690-d623-d1b9-8dcb676cb519 at comcast.net>
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> When in doubt google or wikipedia it:
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_mailing_list
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>
>> On 6/10/2019 3:20 PM, N4ZR wrote:
>> I first became a member of the Towertalk reflector at least 25 years
>> ago, when there was no CQ-Contest and we felt the need to mention
>> "tower" or "antenna" somewhere in our contesting-related messages to
>> avoid (we thought) the moderator's wrath.
>>
>> Looking back, do any of you greybeards out there remember where the
>> name "reflector" came from? I much prefer it to "list" or "listserv"
>>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 21:19:49 -0500
> From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack at gmail.com>
> To: CQ Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Where did "Reflector" come from?
> Message-ID:
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> The original idea was that you sent a message to it and it "reflected" the
> message to all the other members. That term has been around as long as the
> internet!
>
> 73, Zack W9SZ
>
>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 9:15 PM N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> I first became a member of the Towertalk reflector at least 25 years
>> ago, when there was no CQ-Contest and we felt the need to mention
>> "tower" or "antenna" somewhere in our contesting-related messages to
>> avoid (we thought) the moderator's wrath.
>>
>> Looking back, do any of you greybeards out there remember where the name
>> "reflector" came from? I much prefer it to "list" or "listserv"
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
>> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
>> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
>> For spots, please use your favorite
>> "retail" DX cluster.
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:34:25 -0400
> From: "rjairam at gmail.com" <rjairam at gmail.com>
> To: N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net>
> Cc: reflector cq-contest <CQ-Contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Where did "Reflector" come from?
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> "Reflector" is a term I've heard only in ham circles. I suppose that
> it has to do with likeness to an antenna reflector.
>
> Ria
> n2RJ
>
>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 22:15, N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> I first became a member of the Towertalk reflector at least 25 years
>> ago, when there was no CQ-Contest and we felt the need to mention
>> "tower" or "antenna" somewhere in our contesting-related messages to
>> avoid (we thought) the moderator's wrath.
>>
>> Looking back, do any of you greybeards out there remember where the name
>> "reflector" came from? I much prefer it to "list" or "listserv"
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
>> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
>> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
>> For spots, please use your favorite
>> "retail" DX cluster.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:38:51 -0500
> From: John Geiger <af5cc2 at gmail.com>
> To: "rjairam at gmail.com" <rjairam at gmail.com>
> Cc: N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net>, reflector cq-contest
> <CQ-Contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Where did "Reflector" come from?
> Message-ID:
> <CAHC1P28paHYE_2CrU0rEiNmWoU5PnUpZ+k2KkPFpfQH8K_EAJQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> How dare you ask a question like that on the contesting reflector! It has
> nothing to do with FT8 :)
>
> 73 John W5TD (ex AF5CC)
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:09 PM rjairam at gmail.com <rjairam at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Reflector" is a term I've heard only in ham circles. I suppose that
>> it has to do with likeness to an antenna reflector.
>>
>> Ria
>> n2RJ
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 22:15, N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I first became a member of the Towertalk reflector at least 25 years
>>> ago, when there was no CQ-Contest and we felt the need to mention
>>> "tower" or "antenna" somewhere in our contesting-related messages to
>>> avoid (we thought) the moderator's wrath.
>>>
>>> Looking back, do any of you greybeards out there remember where the name
>>> "reflector" came from? I much prefer it to "list" or "listserv"
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
>>> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
>>> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
>>> For spots, please use your favorite
>>> "retail" DX cluster.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 05:22:27 +0000
> From: Radio K?HB <kzerohb at gmail.com>
> To: "rjairam at gmail.com" <rjairam at gmail.com>, N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net>
> Cc: reflector cq-contest <CQ-Contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Where did "Reflector" come from?
> Message-ID: <5cff3a93.1c69fb81.3bfad.521f at mx.google.com>
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> Back in my Navy communications days (pre-internet) the term ?reflector? was synonymous with ?collective address? --- a single callsign like ?XYKD? (made up for illustration) might mean ?all ships in Sixth Fleet? or ?all ships in Destroyer Squadron 22?.
>
> 73, de Hans, K?HB
> "Just a boy and his radio"?
>
> From: rjairam at gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 3:09 AM
> To: N4ZR
> Cc: reflector cq-contest
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Where did "Reflector" come from?
>
> "Reflector" is a term I've heard only in ham circles. I suppose that
> it has to do with likeness to an antenna reflector.
>
> Ria
> n2RJ
>
>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 22:15, N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> I first became a member of the Towertalk reflector at least 25 years
>> ago, when there was no CQ-Contest and we felt the need to mention
>> "tower" or "antenna" somewhere in our contesting-related messages to
>> avoid (we thought) the moderator's wrath.
>>
>> Looking back, do any of you greybeards out there remember where the name
>> "reflector" came from? I much prefer it to "list" or "listserv"
>>
>> --
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
>> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
>> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
>> For spots, please use your favorite
>> "retail" DX cluster.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 08:40:13 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: Dave Thompson <thompson at mindspring.com>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Where did "Reflector" come from?
> Message-ID:
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>
> Gang,
>
> The word reflector was used on the darpa net that proceeded the internet WWW. I used that to keep up with friends at Wang and Netron. my previous employers. Some say it is derived from old BBS boards.
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:36:17 +0000
> From: Michael Adams <mda at n1en.org>
> To: "cq-contest at contesting.com" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Where did "Reflector" come from?
> Message-ID:
> <CY4PR19MB0133B83A61B69009B570BF5292ED0 at CY4PR19MB0133.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
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> I remember "reflector" from my BBS days in the early/mid 1980's.
>
> I also remember that when I got to the internet in 1990, there was a technical distinction between "reflector" and ("mailing list"/"LISTSERV"). Reflectors were "dumb" ways to direct email to a manually maintained list of addressees; anything sent to the reflector list, including error messages, would go to everyone on the list.
>
> Mailing lists were smarter things, where a program would be used to maintain the distribution list; eventually people could add or remove themselves by sending a message to administrative addresses associated with specific lists; and the program would attempt to filter out error messages (or offer an administrator the power to moderate the list) to avoid unwanted traffic (a concern at 300/1200/2400 bps dial-up speeds). LISTSERV was probably the first (or at least the first to be widely used) mailing list software, followed later by Majordomo and Mailman.
>
> --
> Michael Adams | mda at n1en.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of Dave Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 June, 2019 08:40
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Where did "Reflector" come from?
>
>
> Gang,
>
> The word reflector was used on the darpa net that proceeded the internet WWW. I used that to keep up with friends at Wang and Netron. my previous employers. Some say it is derived from old BBS boards.
> 73 Dave K4JRB
>
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