[CQ-Contest] CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 198, Issue 14
Drew Vonada-Smith
drew at whisperingwoods.org
Wed Jun 12 11:10:36 EDT 2019
Joe,
I don't recommend that approach for FD. The problem is, it will protect the front end, BUT, if signals are so strong that it kicks in, you are putting a diode in line with that big RX signal. It thus is creating harmonics, which are reradiated, making the FD situation worse.
If your signals are so large as to overload a nearby receiver, a better radio or filters, or better antenna isolation (like physical separation) are your only options. Some gains can be made with placement, vertical vs horizontal, etc. If you are serious about multitransmitter FD, get band filters. And transceivers with low phase noise.
73,
Drew K3PA
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:00:57 -0500
From: Joe <nss at mwt.net>
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
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A unit like this.
https://www.dxengineering.com/search/product-line/dx-engineering-receiver-guard-electronic-rf-limiters?autoview=SKU&keyword=receive%20protector&sortby=BestKeywordMatch&sortorder=Ascending
Has anyone made it so it can work with a tranciever? Think like weak sig
VHF/UHF folk do with remote preamps?
Joe WB9SBD
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 14:34:43 -0500
From: Joe <nss at mwt.net>
To: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at sbelectronics.com>,
"cq-contest at contesting.com" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
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I'm thinking for Field Day.
We have the Passband filters for out of band strong stuff.? But they
don't help protect front ends from in band sigs like Phone station CW
station Digital station all on the same band.
Thinking this might help.
Joe WB9SBD
On 6/11/2019 2:13 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
> Joe, I use one going into the RCV antenna port of my FT1000MPs. I often use beverages with dual radio same band (160 - 40) and this type of product insures no blown receiver front end.
>
> 73
>
> Ed N1UR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 1:01 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
>
> A unit like this.
>
> https://www.dxengineering.com/search/product-line/dx-engineering-receiver-guard-electronic-rf-limiters?autoview=SKU&keyword=receive%20protector&sortby=BestKeywordMatch&sortorder=Ascending
>
> Has anyone made it so it can work with a tranciever? Think like weak sig VHF/UHF folk do with remote preamps?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
>
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:13:53 -0400
From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at sbelectronics.com>
To: Joe <nss at mwt.net>, "cq-contest at contesting.com"
<cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
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Joe, I use one going into the RCV antenna port of my FT1000MPs. I often use beverages with dual radio same band (160 - 40) and this type of product insures no blown receiver front end.
73
Ed N1UR
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From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 1:01 PM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
A unit like this.
https://www.dxengineering.com/search/product-line/dx-engineering-receiver-guard-electronic-rf-limiters?autoview=SKU&keyword=receive%20protector&sortby=BestKeywordMatch&sortorder=Ascending
Has anyone made it so it can work with a tranciever? Think like weak sig VHF/UHF folk do with remote preamps?
Joe WB9SBD
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 14:25:20 -0500
From: "Keith Dutson" <kdutson at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Cq-Contest" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Multi-2 Station Re-build
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I lost my two stations to a direct lightning strike. No coax was connected,
but rigs, amps and computers were all connected to power and internet.
I purchased an Icom 7610 last weekend at HamCom. Now must choose a digital
interface. I have used Navigator, but am looking for alternatives. Also
looking for recommendations. Thanks.
73, Keith NM5G
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:45:05 -0400
From: "Tim Duffy" <k3lr at k3lr.com>
To: "'Joe'" <nss at mwt.net>, "'Edward Sawyer'"
<EdwardS at sbelectronics.com>, <cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
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Hello Joe
If your radio does not have the ability to break out the RX antenna - you
can use the DXE RTR-2.
With the RG5000 plug in module, it will protect your receiver front end.
https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/dxe-rtr-2
73
Tim K3LR
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From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 3:35 PM
To: Edward Sawyer; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
I'm thinking for Field Day.
We have the Passband filters for out of band strong stuff.? But they
don't help protect front ends from in band sigs like Phone station CW
station Digital station all on the same band.
Thinking this might help.
Joe WB9SBD
On 6/11/2019 2:13 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
> Joe, I use one going into the RCV antenna port of my FT1000MPs. I often
use beverages with dual radio same band (160 - 40) and this type of product
insures no blown receiver front end.
>
> 73
>
> Ed N1UR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Joe
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 1:01 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
>
> A unit like this.
>
>
https://www.dxengineering.com/search/product-line/dx-engineering-receiver-gu
ard-electronic-rf-limiters?autoview=SKU&keyword=receive%20protector&sortby=B
estKeywordMatch&sortorder=Ascending
>
> Has anyone made it so it can work with a tranciever? Think like weak sig
VHF/UHF folk do with remote preamps?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
>
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:42:10 -0400
From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at sbelectronics.com>
To: Joe <nss at mwt.net>, "cq-contest at contesting.com"
<cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
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Joe, The Passband filters are really for close in overload rejection of radios on different bands. They don't protect in the technical sense.
If the spacing of the stations is at least 150 ft and you are using 100W radios, tip to tip on yagis pointed in the same direction (typical of field day) my experience is that you don't need this protection and it won't help cut down in band interference.
If you do use them, you either have to run receive only antennas and feed it into the rcv port or you need a solid state T/R relay and feed the R into the rcv port through the protection circuit. Honestly, I have only seen that done with KW stations, not 100W stations.
I did over a decade of SO2R and in band 2 radio with good separation and never needed them. Bandfilters for sure.
73
Ed N1UR
From: Joe [mailto:nss at mwt.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 3:35 PM
To: Edward Sawyer; cq-contest at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
I'm thinking for Field Day.
We have the Passband filters for out of band strong stuff. But they don't help protect front ends from in band sigs like Phone station CW station Digital station all on the same band.
Thinking this might help.
Joe WB9SBD
On 6/11/2019 2:13 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
Joe, I use one going into the RCV antenna port of my FT1000MPs. I often use beverages with dual radio same band (160 - 40) and this type of product insures no blown receiver front end.
73
Ed N1UR
-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 1:01 PM
To: cq-contest at contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest at contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
A unit like this.
https://www.dxengineering.com/search/product-line/dx-engineering-receiver-guard-electronic-rf-limiters?autoview=SKU&keyword=receive%20protector&sortby=BestKeywordMatch&sortorder=Ascending
Has anyone made it so it can work with a tranciever? Think like weak sig VHF/UHF folk do with remote preamps?
Joe WB9SBD
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