[CQ-Contest] Serial number, contact sending speed
Steve London
n2icarrl at gmail.com
Tue Mar 12 18:40:52 EDT 2019
Not so for the non-USA side of CQWW. You have to get the zone correct for worked
USA stations. My (preliminary) LCR from operating N2IC @ N3HBX showed nearly 900
QSO's relied on their databases to incorrectly log me in Zone 4.
73,
Steve, N2IC
On 03/12/2019 12:43 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
> CQ WW. All you need is the correct callsign for 99.99% of the contacts.
> The logger does the rest.
>
> Gerry W1VE
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 2:38 PM Dave Edmonds <dave at pkministrywebs.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I thought you had to have correct information in your log for contacts in
>> any contest... So which contests allow us to do half the job?
>>
>> Dave AFP
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:36 PM NM5M <nm5meric at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Don’t forget, in the Russian contest, the contest sponsor penalizes
>>> stations if the receiving party doesn’t get the information correctly
>> into
>>> their log. To simplify, both stations have to copy correct information in
>>> order to get full points for the contact.
>>>
>>> We could learn something from the way the Russians score their contest.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> NM5M
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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>>>> 1. Phone Fray - Daylight Savings Time - Tuesday Nights
>>>> (dfaklis at frontiernet.net)
>>>> 2. Serial # contests, speed? (Mike Smith VE9AA)
>>>> 3. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (K9MA)
>>>> 4. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Edward Sawyer)
>>>> 5. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (rjairam at gmail.com)
>>>> 6. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (jimk8mr at aol.com)
>>>> 7. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Bob Shohet, KQ2M)
>>>> 8. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Ed K1EP)
>>>> 9. Serial # contests, speed? (Bill Parry)
>>>> 10. Serial # contests, speed? (jpescatore at aol.com)
>>>> 11. Re: Serial # contests, speed? (Dave Edmonds)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:16:05 +0000 (UTC)
>>>> From: "dfaklis at frontiernet.net" <dfaklis at frontiernet.net>
>>>> To: "cq-contest at contesting.com" <cq-contest at contesting.com>, MRRC
>>>> Reflector <mrrc at contesting.com>
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Phone Fray - Daylight Savings Time - Tuesday
>>>> Nights
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>>>>
>>>> Phone Fray - Tuesday Evening, 10:30pm EDT (0230-0300z Wednesday),
>>> 30-minute SSB contest.? Please bring a friend and introduce a new
>> contester
>>> into the mix.? One QSO or many, please enter your score.
>>>>
>>>> The Phone Fray is weekly and mirrors NAQP SSB; exchange name and S/P/C,
>>> mults per band.
>>>>
>>>> Suggested center frequencies are:? 21.325, 14.250, 7.175, 3.800,
>> 1.875.?
>>> General Ops can be found above 3.800.
>>>>
>>>> 20 may be open at the start, then folks move down to 40, 80, and Q's
>> are
>>> had on 160 in the last 5-10 minutes.
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Please forward this email to your clubs and amateurs that might be
>>> interested.?? Great for new contesters and veterans alike.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> 73, Dean, NW2K
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:44:17 -0300
>>>> From: "Mike Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>> To: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>> Message-ID: <002e01d4d86c$b9f0a350$2dd1e9f0$@nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>
>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>>> busting
>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>
>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>
>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
>> is),
>>> but
>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>
>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>
>>>> . Something else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>>> who
>>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>>>>
>>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 20:02:55 -0600
>>>> From: K9MA <k9ma at sdellington.us>
>>>> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>> Message-ID: <C7FA205D-26C9-4065-818E-C4B7227D2961 at sdellington.us>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>
>>>> I slow down to the other?s speed, if necessary, and further if
>>> conditions are poor. I think slowing down just for the sn is
>>> counterproductive.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Scott K9MA
>>>>
>>>> ----------
>>>>
>>>> Scott Ellington
>>>>
>>>> --- via iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do
>> you:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>>> busting
>>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>>
>>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>>
>>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
>>> is), but
>>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>>
>>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>>
>>>>> . Something else?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>>> who
>>>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>>>>>
>>>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>>>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:01:42 -0400
>>>> From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at sbelectronics.com>
>>>> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>, "cq-contest at contesting.com"
>>>> <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <
>>> 0D39B6681B67B44DAEC5D6AD99294A8E047CF8ED1E61 at SBEMAIL.sbelectronics.com>
>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>
>>>> For WPX and Russia DX or ARRL or CQWW, for me it doesn't matter, serial
>>> # or not. If conditions are good and you are working Europe, especially,
>>> Russia and Eastern Europe, its fast 36 - 40. If its all US or South
>>> America I slow it down to 32 - 34. When conditions are more marginal
>>> especially with QSB, I use 28 - 30. Especially over the pole - 26 - 28.
>>>>
>>>> Ed N1UR
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Mike Smith VE9AA
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:44 PM
>>>> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>>
>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>>> busting
>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>
>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>
>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
>> is),
>>> but
>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>
>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>
>>>> . Something else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>>> who knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>>>>
>>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 22:05:47 -0400
>>>> From: "rjairam at gmail.com" <rjairam at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CAMCyBs6k43PRTDN14_t8r7c9vjAGdWqE1R8iadZ1R1Z7Wk+VOg at mail.gmail.com
>>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>>
>>>> Automatically have software go slower to send the exchange.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Ria, N2RJ
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 21:58, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do
>> you:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>>> busting
>>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>>
>>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>>
>>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
>>> is), but
>>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>>
>>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>>
>>>>> . Something else?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>>> who
>>>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>>>>>
>>>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>>>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ria Jairam, N2RJ
>>>> Director, Hudson Division
>>>> ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio?
>>>> +1.973.594.6275
>>>> https://hudson.arrl.org
>>>> n2rj at arrl.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 6
>>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 02:15:35 +0000 (UTC)
>>>> From: jimk8mr at aol.com
>>>> To: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca, cq-contest at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>> Message-ID: <2066153686.3273616.1552356935422 at mail.yahoo.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>>
>>>> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
>>> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
>>> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
>>>> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
>>> I have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
>>> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
>> and
>>> knows how to increment a number.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
>>> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
>>> the other guy to call you now.
>>>>
>>>> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
>>> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
>> with
>>> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the speed
>> a
>>> bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73? -? Jim? K8MR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>>
>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .? ? ? Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>>> busting
>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>
>>>> .? ? ? Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>
>>>> .? ? ? Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
>>> but
>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>
>>>> .? ? ? Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>
>>>> .? ? ? Something else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>>> who
>>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 7
>>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 00:18:04 -0400
>>>> From: "Bob Shohet, KQ2M" <kq2m at kq2m.com>
>>>> To: <jimk8mr at aol.com>, <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>,
>>>> <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>> Message-ID: <A2E111074D3949F6BBB370BE544F0B44 at BOBWINPC1PC>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>>
>>>> What is fun is when a super op type calls you and you KNOW that you can
>>> speed up and send it to him at 60 wpm and he will get it the first time
>> and
>>> vice-versa if I I call him/her. Get?s the blood pumping a little faster
>>> and puts a smile on my face (and hopefully theirs). :-) And there
>> are
>>> some slow sending ops that can copy qrq easily ? but just can?t send
>> fast ?
>>> and your turning up the speed to send to them is like a knowing handshake
>>> saluting their copying skill ? ?Hey I know who you are ? you?re a really
>>> good op so I am going to send fast to you!?.
>>>>
>>>> It also gets the attention of the pileup ? makes them listen and wonder
>>> what is going on. If they are listening then they are not transmitting
>>> which means that when the weak guy calls you will copy him and work him.
>>> Sometimes that weak guy is a polar path mult that you would never have
>>> heard if/when everyone was calling at once!
>>>>
>>>> It pays to slow down if cndx are disturbed and the signals start to
>>> sound auroral and/or of have significant flutter (like the W1 path to
>> JA) ?
>>> if you are sending fast you will be harder to understand and callers may
>>> pass you by.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Bob KQ2M
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: K8MR via CQ-Contest
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:15 PM
>>>> To: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca ; cq-contest at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>>
>>>> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
>>> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for the
>>> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
>>>>
>>>> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup (assuming
>>> I have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it is
>>> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
>> and
>>> knows how to increment a number.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain exchange
>>> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency for
>>> the other guy to call you now.
>>>>
>>>> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
>>> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
>> with
>>> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the speed
>> a
>>> bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73 - Jim K8MR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>>
>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do you:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>>> busting
>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>
>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>
>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed is),
>>> but
>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>
>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>
>>>> . Something else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>>> who
>>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 8
>>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 05:25:58 -0400
>>>> From: Ed K1EP <k1ep.list at gmail.com>
>>>> To: jimk8mr at aol.com
>>>> Cc: ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca, cq Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CAKR4uUNq7qoQ2XRqRA=UmLPm9WOxg21na9sKUL8m8a8nQQOXDQ at mail.gmail.com
>>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>>
>>>> What I don't get are those who send at warp speed, but pause a second
>> or
>>>> two before sending the exchange. Same amount of time if you just
>>> eliminated
>>>> the pause and sent at non-warp speed.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019, 23:41 K8MR via CQ-Contest <
>>> cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
>>>>> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for
>> the
>>>>> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
>>>>> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup
>> (assuming
>>> I
>>>>> have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it
>> is
>>>>> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
>>> and
>>>>> knows how to increment a number.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain
>> exchange
>>>>> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency
>> for
>>>>> the other guy to call you now.
>>>>>
>>>>> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
>>>>> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
>>> with
>>>>> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the
>>> speed a
>>>>> bit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 - Jim K8MR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
>>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>>>
>>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do
>> you:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>>> busting
>>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>>
>>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>>
>>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
>> is),
>>> but
>>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>>
>>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>>
>>>>> . Something else?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>>> who
>>>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>>>>> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
>>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 9
>>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 05:00:39 -0500
>>>> From: "Bill Parry" <bparry at rgv.rr.com>
>>>> Cc: <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>> Message-ID: <000001d4d8ba$7445b8b0$5cd12a10$@rgv.rr.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed that I need to send a little slower in JA pileups than
>> in
>>> EU ones. Not sure why but if I try to speed up past 30 in a JA pileup
>> the
>>> pileup starts to dwindle. If the pileup is unruly I DO speed up.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com> On Behalf Of K9MA
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 9:03 PM
>>>> To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>>
>>>> I slow down to the other?s speed, if necessary, and further if
>>> conditions are poor. I think slowing down just for the sn is
>>> counterproductive.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Scott K9MA
>>>>
>>>> ----------
>>>>
>>>> Scott Ellington
>>>>
>>>> --- via iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2019, at 6:44 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do
>> you:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>>> busting
>>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>>
>>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>>
>>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
>>> is), but
>>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>>
>>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>>
>>>>> . Something else?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>>>>> who knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>>>>>
>>>>> Keswick Ridge, NB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:17:48 +0000 (UTC)
>>>> From: jpescatore at aol.com
>>>> To: CQ-Contest at CONTESTING.COM
>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
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>>>>
>>>> I'll generally stay at high speed unless the caller is obviously
>> slower.
>>> Then I will send their callsign back full speed and hit the PageDown key
>> a
>>> few times before the variable part of the exchange, then back up.?
>>>> For information free exchanges, like CQ WW, I don't slow down. For
>> NAQP,
>>> SS, FD and others that get lots of new or part timers, I don't speed up.
>> On
>>> VHF tests, I send as if I was using a straight key...
>>>> 73 John K3TN
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 11
>>>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 07:35:47 -0400
>>>> From: Dave Edmonds <dave at pkministrywebs.com>
>>>> To: Jim Stahl <jimk8mr at aol.com>
>>>> Cc: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>, "
>> cq-contest at contesting.com"
>>>> <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CAHQrxhKcjm4OYZ4Oo=gLxbZqoj-WkT1+iX8GE6tpQAR7gtnGYw at mail.gmail.com
>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Amen K8MR!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> The comment about a sense of urgency is 100% DEAD ON! i never
>> considered
>>>> this before, but Jim is right. It's also upbeat and energetic...Those
>> are
>>>> always positive!
>>>>
>>>> Please do not change your CW speed during your exchange!... If you do,
>>> I'll
>>>> probably ask for a repeat. When I hear a 599 or 5NN (or the first
>> element
>>>> of the exchange) at 40 wpm, my brain is primed to copy the rest of the
>>>> exchange at 40 wpm. Please oh please keep it constant. There's nothing
>>> for
>>>> difficult than copying variable speed transmissions...Who started this
>>>> weird technique anyway?
>>>>
>>>> Have you ever heard W1AW speed copy tests? They don't change the speed
>>> with
>>>> every other word. Perhaps they should create one and call it the
>>> contesters
>>>> variable speed copy test. When I took my 20 wpm test at the FCC offices
>>> in
>>>> Atlanta, New Orleans and Greenville hamfest in the lat 70's, they
>> didn't
>>>> switch it up either.
>>>>
>>>> Frankly, even SS is pretty easy at the 36-40 range.
>>>>
>>>> This is a bit off the subject, but still relevant...Four more CW truths
>>>> that drive me to the 'funny farm'.
>>>>
>>>> 1. If you run in a contest, please don't set your CQ speed faster than
>>> you
>>>> can actually copy CW.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Don't use phonetics on CW. I asked someone for a repeat recently and
>>>> they spelled out the letter that I was mission... Holy moly... Just
>> send
>>>> the letter a few times.
>>>>
>>>> 3. I'll add one more... I hear the good old "Please copy" on CW too.
>>> WHAT!
>>>>
>>>> 4. Please leave enough space between CQs for a guy with a 6-character
>>>> callsign to reply at a reasonable speed. This weekend, I had to reply
>> at
>>> 44
>>>> wpm to fit my callsign in the GAP. I'm now calling this the 'CQ GAP'.
>>>>
>>>> Playing a little Prince "Let's Go Crazy", "Tom Sawyer" by Rush or some
>>> fast
>>>> Phil Collins vinyl during your breaks will also help keep your speed up
>>>> when you return.
>>>>
>>>> 73s Dave WN4AFP
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:41 PM K8MR via CQ-Contest <
>>>> cq-contest at contesting.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm of a keep it at the same speed style - I don't think the 300
>>>>> milliseconds one saves by sending 5NN at warp speed compensates for
>> the
>>>>> other guy's brain having to shift gears to copy what I'm sending.
>>>>> I judge just how fast I'm sending by the nature of the pileup
>> (assuming
>>> I
>>>>> have one!). The bigger the pileup, the safer it is to go fast, as it
>> is
>>>>> quite likely the guy you're working just listened to your previous QSO
>>> and
>>>>> knows how to increment a number.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe not so much in serial number contests, but in a no-brain
>> exchange
>>>>> contest (i.e. CQWW) sending on the fast side puts a sense of urgency
>> for
>>>>> the other guy to call you now.
>>>>>
>>>>> And as a contest wears on, yes, sending somewhat slower is a good
>>>>> strategy. And if for some reason (hopefully other than you got spotted
>>> with
>>>>> a busted call) you do get a small pileup, go ahead and bump up the
>>> speed a
>>>>> bit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 - Jim K8MR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca>
>>>>> To: cq-contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
>>>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 9:58 pm
>>>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Serial # contests, speed?
>>>>>
>>>>> For contests like RDX and WPX where the exchange is a serial #, do
>> you:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> . Go as fast as always. (34-36wpm) , risking your qso partner
>>> busting
>>>>> the #,but keeping rate high.
>>>>>
>>>>> . Go a bit slower (30-32wpm), hoping the QRS improves the copy &
>>>>> reduces busted exchanges.
>>>>>
>>>>> . Send everything just as fast as normal (whatever that speed
>> is),
>>> but
>>>>> use brackets <<>> (a la N1MM) to slow down JUST the serial #
>>>>>
>>>>> . Slow down only for obviously slow callers
>>>>>
>>>>> . Something else?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Inquiring minds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to skew the results, so I won't say (yet) what I do. (and
>>> who
>>>>> knows if what I do is even 'right')
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike VE9AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Dave Edmonds
>>>> PK Ministry Webs
>>>> 864.288.6678
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