[CQ-Contest] Is there any HTTP cluster streams (not telnet)?

Gerry Hull gerry at yccc.org
Sun May 26 15:29:43 EDT 2019


None of the RFCs are enforced, but yet they are standards.  Port 80 telnet
servers are blocked by “good” corporate firewalls, because they look at
contention just port.  That’s why I mentioned https SoftEther VPN.   I do
have a spare IP on my VPS running my AR cluster.  I’ll see if I can make
that play.

73 Gerry W1VE

On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 2:26 PM Jack Haverty <k3fiv at arrl.net> wrote:

> On 5/22/19 7:37 PM, Gerry Hull wrote:
> > The problem with
> > running telnet on port 80 is that it is the well-known http port.  You
> can
> > telnet to http and vice versa, but it would not be much fun.
>
> IIRC, port assignments are just a convention adopted by "the community"
> back in the 80s.  Unless something has changed since I was involved in
> that fray, there is no enforcement of such conventions.
>
> That means that anyone, anywhere, can bring up a Telnet-based server
> listening on port 80, instead of the conventional web server that
> listens there.  Clients could then connect using telnet to that server,
> but of course they'd need to be using programs that they can somehow
> tell to use port 80 instead of the conventional telnet port.  Web
> connections to such a server "would not be much fun", but telnetting to
> port 80 should work fine.
>
> Perhaps one of the cluster operators would add a "port 80 service" to
> their cluster, using a different internet address from any current web
> server.  Or someone could bring up a "gateway" server, located outside
> of firewalls, that patches incoming telnet connections on port 80 to
> outgoing connections to the clusters using the standard telnet port.
>
> Firewalls that rely on simply blocking some ports are pretty flimsy as
> barriers.  If you look at how common "apps" like games, house
> controllers, news readers, et al manage to "call home" to their
> corporate servers, you'll probably find that they sidestep firewalls by
> simply using port 80 to communicate with their servers somewhere out on
> the Internet.  Ham radio servers could do the same.
>
> The long-term solution is some successor to Telnet...but there are
> "hacks" that would work in the interim.
>
> /Jack 73 de K3FIV
>
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