[CQ-Contest] Scary

Thu Nov 7 07:31:16 EST 2019

I've frequently found in SS on Sunday that 24-26 wpm works better 
attracting the casual ops than 30-32.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 11/6/2019 8:32 PM, Dave Edmonds wrote:
> i felt like I was flying in SS at 32 wpm, because tons of ops were running
> at 25 or so. One funny moment was when I worked NP2X who was flying on 15m
> on Saturday. On Sunday eve on 40m he was running at 22 or so.
>
> Got to fly!  Dave WN4AFP
>
> i may try to send at 20 wpm at 03z tonight.
>
> De
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 3:15 PM Gerry Hull <gerry at yccc.org> wrote:
>
>> So, I will buck the consensus.
>>
>> I've been doing SS about 42 years or so.   When I started I was a
>> snot-nosed teenager.   In my first SS, I had to listen to a station 5 to 10
>> times before I got all his information, and then I prayed I could copy his
>> QSO number.
>> (Not to mention KP4AST on SS SSB, who was such as fast talker it took the
>> same amount of times listening to even get his call!)
>>
>> This is the story for many of those top-ten players in SS now back then.
>>   Learn by pushing yourself.    I believe slowing down the contest will not
>> encourage more CW activity.   The high end of the band has
>> always been a safe place for slower-speed guys in SS.
>>
>> I would hazard to guess I send at one of the fastest CW speeds in SS.
>>   When the Pileups were enormous, I would send at 38-40 wpm.     When things
>> got slow, I would slow down to 34 or so,
>> Did I work many slow stations?   Perhaps 100s.   When stations called me
>> with a slow speed, I replied with a slow speed.  One op called me at 18
>> wpm.   I answered him at 18 WPM, and we made it.
>> (A new VE4 CW op who was under the tutelage of Cary, VE4EA, operating as
>> AJ1I).     It was NEVER a problem to QRS, when needed.   In some 960 QSOs,
>> I think I had one operator actually ask me to QRS, which I did
>> immediately.
>>
>> With today's spotting technology and most new ops choosing to avail
>> themselves of spots, I'm sure they came to my frequency not being able to
>> copy at my sending speed.
>> Yet, we had a QSO.   It's simple to QRS as necessary.
>>
>> However, IMHO, to keep peak rates I like to go fast.    It seems to work
>> for me in all contests.
>> I think it encourages new ops to strive for more.
>>
>> I see this same interaction in CWOps CWT's and in the big four.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Gerry, W1VE
>> VY1AAA in SS CW 2019
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 10:37 PM Stephen Bloom <sbloom at acsalaska.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed on all of this.  One thing is, the newer cw operators (and there
>>> are more than you realize, check out .040-.060 above band edge) are
>>> generated by CWops and SKCC.  If we want more CW contesters going
>> forward,
>>> we need to be looking in that direction.  I support the ARRL in many
>> ways,
>>> but in terms of developing and providing opportunities for new ops,
>> beyond
>>> selling them books, they just aren't a factor.  In the specific case of
>> SS,
>>> I've long thought we should designate, say .050 and above as "Slow
>> Speed."
>>> There are ops out there who enjoy cw, but are scared to death of looking
>>> foolish in a contest.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Steve KL7SB
>>>
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>>> Joe
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 5:56 AM
>>> To: John Geiger <af5cc2 at gmail.com>; AB2E Darrell <ab2e at hotmail.com>
>>> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Scary
>>>
>>> The Rookie Roundup is dismal! It is NOTHING like the Novice Roundup of
>>> like the 70's Participation levels are soo low, that a pretty good
>> portion
>>> of the sections, you can make just one contact and take first place
>> because
>>> no one enters in from there.
>>>
>>> When the ARRL thought about bringing this contest back, I wish they kept
>>> the same old format of like 9 or 10 days operating window, but still only
>>> use 124 to 30 hours of operating time.
>>>
>>> Just modernize it with the new modes that a newly licensed person can
>>> use.  IE: 3 Modes CW, SSB, Digital.
>>> And like Field Day you can work them on each band and each mode.
>>>
>>> Same with Mults each band and mode to encourage people to try different
>>> bands and modes.
>>>
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>
>>> That would have been a BLAST
>>> Sig
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>>> On 11/4/2019 10:20 PM, John Geiger wrote:
>>>> How many rookie operators are showing up in the CW version of the
>>>> Rookie Roundup?  That might give us a good indication of what the
>>>> expect in the CW SS in years to come.
>>>>
>>>> 73 John W5TD
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 9:41 PM AB2E Darrell <ab2e at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Pete,
>>>>> Good point about the new ops showing up.
>>>>> It's been 3 or 4 years since I operated SS CW more than just a couple
>>>>> hours.
>>>>> I noticed quite a few CKs from 00-18. Also quite a number of ops
>>>>> coming back to my CQ at between 17-21 WPM.
>>>>> While I like to typically operate at 30+wpm in contests, I try to
>>>>> slow down for the slower ops that came back.
>>>>> I think it will help them hang in there. Sometimes I just slowed down
>>>>> some, like to 24 or 25 so as to still challenge them and hopefully
>>>>> help improve their speed.
>>>>>
>>>>> There seems to be some attrition in the diehard 24hour high-speed
>>>>> operators, but perhaps that;s my imagination.
>>>>> I'm thinking back to the 90s and 80s when on Sunday afternoon a lot
>>>>> of operators had 1000+ QSO counts, only worked a few of those on Sun
>>>>> this year, and one of those was Multi.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 Darrell AB2E
>>>>>
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>>>>> N4ZR < n4zr at comcast.net>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 5:44 PM
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>>>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Scary
>>>>>
>>>>> The one I got from the N1MM site had over 10,000.  I was surprised by
>>>>> how many people weren't in it.  My theory, at least, is that there's
>>>>> a little new blood every year, and a good thing.  Too many checks in
>>> the 50s.
>>>>> 73, Pete N4ZR
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>>>>> On 11/4/2019 1:09 PM, Radio KØHB wrote:
>>>>>> I loaded a “call history” file into N1MM+ for this weekends SS CW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of over 500 contacts, just seven were NOT in that file.  Five of
>>>>> them had checks from the last century.
>>>>>> 73, de Hans, KØHB
>>>>>> "Just a boy and his radio"™
>>>>>>
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