[CQ-Contest] CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 203, Issue 9

[Bill Axelrod]

If they do not reply to PR?  I usually send "power?".  And I keep my hands
on the keyboard and use Control K in N1MM+ instead of using my paddles.

73...   Bill

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>    1. Precedence? (john at kk9a.com)
>    2. Re: Precedence? (N4ZR)
>    3. Re: Precedence? (Alan M. Eshleman)
>    4. Re: Precedence? (AB2E Darrell)
>    5. Re: Precedence? (Jack Brindle)
>    6. Re: Precedence? (Jack Brindle)
>    7. Re: Precedence? (AB2E Darrell)
>    8. Re: Precedence? (Mike Ricketts)
>    9. Re: Precedence? (Dave Edmonds)
>   10. Re: Precedence? (Ken K6MR)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 11:27:01 -0600
> From: john at kk9a.com
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
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> What it the best way to ask for a repeat of someone's precedence in SS
> CW? For me this is the most difficult part of the exchange to get sent
> again. Often I get the section is repeated instead and I have to ask
> again in a different way or sometimes the whole report is sent again
> which at least resolves the issue. In a few cases the calling station
> simply disappeared after my query and I had to wipe them from my log.
>
> John W4AAA (KK9A,op)
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 15:39:44 -0500
> From: N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
> Message-ID: <17b7a78c-ba36-37e5-ee11-9895838fbda5 at comcast.net>
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> I think most folks use PREC? but if the guy on the other end says "?" I
> try "NR?" in hope that he will concatenate number and precedence, and if
> necessary, "AGN PSE". But I agree, not everyone gets it.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
>
> On 11/8/2019 12:27 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote:
> >
> > What it the best way to ask for a repeat of someone's precedence in SS
> > CW? For me this is the most difficult part of the exchange to get sent
> > again. Often I get the section is repeated instead and I have to ask
> > again in a different way or sometimes the whole report is sent again
> > which at least resolves the issue. In a few cases the calling station
> > simply disappeared after my query and I had to wipe them from my log.
> >
> > John W4AAA (KK9A,op)
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 12:52:50 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Alan M. Eshleman" <doctore at well.com>
> To: john at kk9a.com
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
> Message-ID: <719693019.386837.1573246370243.JavaMail.zimbra at well.com>
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>
> It's difficult.  Assuming the station does stay around for fills, "pre" or
> "prec" are about the best you can do.  In some cases--when the op at the
> other end just doesn't get it--I have resorted to sending "letter?".
>
> I'm curious about why it's "precedence" in the first place? The letters
> describe what are fundamentally operating class designations?  Is this some
> sort of quaint anachronism retained from traffic handling (as  "check" for
> year first licensed also appears to be?). Precedency is defined as:
>
> "the condition of being considered more important than someone or
> something else; priority in importance, order, or rank."
>
> 73, Alan/K6SRZ
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: john at kk9a.com
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Sent: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 09:27:01 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
>
>
> What it the best way to ask for a repeat of someone's precedence in SS
> CW? For me this is the most difficult part of the exchange to get sent
> again. Often I get the section is repeated instead and I have to ask
> again in a different way or sometimes the whole report is sent again
> which at least resolves the issue. In a few cases the calling station
> simply disappeared after my query and I had to wipe them from my log.
>
> John W4AAA (KK9A,op)
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 21:16:24 +0000
> From: AB2E Darrell <ab2e at hotmail.com>
> To: N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net>, "cq-contest at contesting.com"
>         <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
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> Pete and group,
> I start with PR, but if that doesn't work, usually YR for year works.
> 73 Darrell AB2E
>
> ________________________________
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com> on behalf of N4ZR <
> n4zr at comcast.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:39 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
>
> I think most folks use PREC? but if the guy on the other end says "?" I
> try "NR?" in hope that he will concatenate number and precedence, and if
> necessary, "AGN PSE". But I agree, not everyone gets it.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
>
> On 11/8/2019 12:27 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote:
> >
> > What it the best way to ask for a repeat of someone's precedence in SS
> > CW? For me this is the most difficult part of the exchange to get sent
> > again. Often I get the section is repeated instead and I have to ask
> > again in a different way or sometimes the whole report is sent again
> > which at least resolves the issue. In a few cases the calling station
> > simply disappeared after my query and I had to wipe them from my log.
> >
> > John W4AAA (KK9A,op)
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 13:26:16 -0800
> From: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle at me.com>
> To: Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
> Message-ID: <0C78C46A-F13E-41A2-A8B5-4EBA86FC22FA at me.com>
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> I think part of the problem is the number of F-Keys available for
> messages. Sweepstakes has four fields that may require fills (really five,
> but we usually have our callsign covered with a key already). This means
> that we need eight keys (four for fill requests, the other four for the
> actually data). Most loggers don?t really support this many keys, so we end
> up choosing what data we can assign to keys and hope for the best. With
> that in mind, many ops will simply append Prec to Nr and then send them
> together. Even still, that means six keys.
>
> So, what I suspect what most folks do is to just send the whole thing
> whenever any fill request comes in. There is also the situation where we
> get tired and accidentally hit the wrong key. I found myself a time or two
> in CW SS accidentally hitting the CQ key (quickly followed by abort) when I
> really wanted to hit the NR key. I used SkookumLogger in Sweeps. I assigned
> the four fills to keys, then brought up the keyboard CW whenever I needed
> to request a fill. That also caused a few issues from forgetting to get out
> of keyboard mode, usually sending the received fill data at the end of my
> exchange. Yes, I did confuse a few folks. They were tired also?
>
> So perhaps it might be a combination of them misunderstanding the request,
> hitting the wrong key, or not having all the fill data set up on their
> keyboard.
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
>
> > On Nov 8, 2019, at 12:39 PM, N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > I think most folks use PREC? but if the guy on the other end says "?" I
> try "NR?" in hope that he will concatenate number and precedence, and if
> necessary, "AGN PSE". But I agree, not everyone gets it.
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
> > at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
> > spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> > For spots, please use your favorite
> > "retail" DX cluster.
> >
> > On 11/8/2019 12:27 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote:
> >>
> >> What it the best way to ask for a repeat of someone's precedence in SS
> CW? For me this is the most difficult part of the exchange to get sent
> again. Often I get the section is repeated instead and I have to ask again
> in a different way or sometimes the whole report is sent again which at
> least resolves the issue. In a few cases the calling station simply
> disappeared after my query and I had to wipe them from my log.
> >>
> >> John W4AAA (KK9A,op)
> >>
> >>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 13:53:34 -0800
> From: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle at me.com>
> To: AB2E Darrell <ab2e at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "cq-contest at contesting.com" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
> Message-ID: <82855A3F-3F55-4B3C-94B6-85FF139B9DB5 at me.com>
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>
> That doesn?t work. Prec and YR are not the same thing.
> YR is the check.
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
> > On Nov 8, 2019, at 1:16 PM, AB2E Darrell <ab2e at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Pete and group,
> > I start with PR, but if that doesn't work, usually YR for year works.
> > 73 Darrell AB2E
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com> on behalf of N4ZR <
> n4zr at comcast.net>
> > Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:39 PM
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
> >
> > I think most folks use PREC? but if the guy on the other end says "?" I
> > try "NR?" in hope that he will concatenate number and precedence, and if
> > necessary, "AGN PSE". But I agree, not everyone gets it.
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
> > at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
> > spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> > For spots, please use your favorite
> > "retail" DX cluster.
> >
> > On 11/8/2019 12:27 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote:
> >>
> >> What it the best way to ask for a repeat of someone's precedence in SS
> >> CW? For me this is the most difficult part of the exchange to get sent
> >> again. Often I get the section is repeated instead and I have to ask
> >> again in a different way or sometimes the whole report is sent again
> >> which at least resolves the issue. In a few cases the calling station
> >> simply disappeared after my query and I had to wipe them from my log.
> >>
> >> John W4AAA (KK9A,op)
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 21:59:02 +0000
> From: AB2E Darrell <ab2e at hotmail.com>
> To: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle at me.com>
> Cc: "cq-contest at contesting.com" <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
> Message-ID:
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> My apologies, asleep at the wheel here.
> For PR I will ask NR and hope they also send the letter.
> Disregard YR is what I send if they don't get CK.
> 73 Darrell AB2E
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle at me.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:53 PM
> To: AB2E Darrell <ab2e at hotmail.com>
> Cc: cq-contest at contesting.com <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
>
> That doesn?t work. Prec and YR are not the same thing.
> YR is the check.
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
> > On Nov 8, 2019, at 1:16 PM, AB2E Darrell <ab2e at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Pete and group,
> > I start with PR, but if that doesn't work, usually YR for year works.
> > 73 Darrell AB2E
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces at contesting.com> on behalf of N4ZR <
> n4zr at comcast.net>
> > Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 3:39 PM
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
> >
> > I think most folks use PREC? but if the guy on the other end says "?" I
> > try "NR?" in hope that he will concatenate number and precedence, and if
> > necessary, "AGN PSE". But I agree, not everyone gets it.
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
> > at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
> > spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> > For spots, please use your favorite
> > "retail" DX cluster.
> >
> > On 11/8/2019 12:27 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote:
> >>
> >> What it the best way to ask for a repeat of someone's precedence in SS
> >> CW? For me this is the most difficult part of the exchange to get sent
> >> again. Often I get the section is repeated instead and I have to ask
> >> again in a different way or sometimes the whole report is sent again
> >> which at least resolves the issue. In a few cases the calling station
> >> simply disappeared after my query and I had to wipe them from my log.
> >>
> >> John W4AAA (KK9A,op)
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> CQ-Contest mailing list
> >> CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> >> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 16:12:06 -0600
> From: Mike Ricketts <mike.nd9g at gmail.com>
> To: "Alan M. Eshleman" <doctore at well.com>
> Cc: CQ-Contest <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
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> Due to the contest's roots in traffic handling. Precedence is used to
> determine the priority level of the traffic being handled.
>
> http://www.arrl.org/chapter-six-arrl-precedences-and-handling-instructions
>
> 73,
> Mike ND9G
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:49 PM Alan M. Eshleman <doctore at well.com> wrote:
>
> > It's difficult.  Assuming the station does stay around for fills, "pre"
> or
> > "prec" are about the best you can do.  In some cases--when the op at the
> > other end just doesn't get it--I have resorted to sending "letter?".
> >
> > I'm curious about why it's "precedence" in the first place? The letters
> > describe what are fundamentally operating class designations?  Is this
> some
> > sort of quaint anachronism retained from traffic handling (as  "check"
> for
> > year first licensed also appears to be?). Precedency is defined as:
> >
> > "the condition of being considered more important than someone or
> > something else; priority in importance, order, or rank."
> >
> > 73, Alan/K6SRZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: john at kk9a.com
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Sent: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 09:27:01 -0800 (PST)
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
> >
> >
> > What it the best way to ask for a repeat of someone's precedence in SS
> > CW? For me this is the most difficult part of the exchange to get sent
> > again. Often I get the section is repeated instead and I have to ask
> > again in a different way or sometimes the whole report is sent again
> > which at least resolves the issue. In a few cases the calling station
> > simply disappeared after my query and I had to wipe them from my log.
> >
> > John W4AAA (KK9A,op)
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
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> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 17:18:23 -0500
> From: Dave Edmonds <dave at pkministrywebs.com>
> To: "Alan M. Eshleman" <doctore at well.com>
> Cc: john at kk9a.com, "cq-contest at contesting.com"
>         <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
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> I usually send
> "PREC?", next try would be "Class",
> "CK?" for Check/Year
>
> When I asked for just one part of the exchange, many times I received the
> entire exchange. I use a memory keyer with a paddle available. When asked
> for fills, I can send with paddle more than once and give the op what they
> requested.
>
> Wonder how many ops have a paddle plugged-in?
>
> It was a fun SS!
>
> 73s Dave WN4AFP
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 4:49 PM Alan M. Eshleman <doctore at well.com> wrote:
>
> > It's difficult.  Assuming the station does stay around for fills, "pre"
> or
> > "prec" are about the best you can do.  In some cases--when the op at the
> > other end just doesn't get it--I have resorted to sending "letter?".
> >
> > I'm curious about why it's "precedence" in the first place? The letters
> > describe what are fundamentally operating class designations?  Is this
> some
> > sort of quaint anachronism retained from traffic handling (as  "check"
> for
> > year first licensed also appears to be?). Precedency is defined as:
> >
> > "the condition of being considered more important than someone or
> > something else; priority in importance, order, or rank."
> >
> > 73, Alan/K6SRZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: john at kk9a.com
> > To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> > Sent: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 09:27:01 -0800 (PST)
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
> >
> >
> > What it the best way to ask for a repeat of someone's precedence in SS
> > CW? For me this is the most difficult part of the exchange to get sent
> > again. Often I get the section is repeated instead and I have to ask
> > again in a different way or sometimes the whole report is sent again
> > which at least resolves the issue. In a few cases the calling station
> > simply disappeared after my query and I had to wipe them from my log.
> >
> > John W4AAA (KK9A,op)
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CQ-Contest mailing list
> > CQ-Contest at contesting.com
> > http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 23:52:31 +0000
> From: Ken K6MR <k6mr at outlook.com>
> To: Jack Brindle <jackbrindle at me.com>, Contest
>         <cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
> Message-ID:
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> ?This means that we need eight keys (four for fill requests, the other
> four for the actually data?
>
> OK, I?ll bite.  Why in the world do you need the same data twice?  Put the
> data in a key.  Once.  Your Exch key handles your normal exchange (all the
> data at once).  I?m not following.
>
> ?So, what I suspect what most folks do is to just send the whole thing
> whenever any fill request comes in.?
>
> And thankfully, almost no one does this. And never do it yourself unless
> you get AGN?  It?s just wasted RF.
>
>
> Ken K6MR
>
> From: Jack Brindle via CQ-Contest<mailto:cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 13:50
> To: Contest<mailto:cq-contest at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Precedence?
>
> I think part of the problem is the number of F-Keys available for
> messages. Sweepstakes has four fields that may require fills (really five,
> but we usually have our callsign covered with a key already). This means
> that we need eight keys (four for fill requests, the other four for the
> actually data). Most loggers don?t really support this many keys, so we end
> up choosing what data we can assign to keys and hope for the best. With
> that in mind, many ops will simply append Prec to Nr and then send them
> together. Even still, that means six keys.
>
> So, what I suspect what most folks do is to just send the whole thing
> whenever any fill request comes in. There is also the situation where we
> get tired and accidentally hit the wrong key. I found myself a time or two
> in CW SS accidentally hitting the CQ key (quickly followed by abort) when I
> really wanted to hit the NR key. I used SkookumLogger in Sweeps. I assigned
> the four fills to keys, then brought up the keyboard CW whenever I needed
> to request a fill. That also caused a few issues from forgetting to get out
> of keyboard mode, usually sending the received fill data at the end of my
> exchange. Yes, I did confuse a few folks. They were tired also?
>
> So perhaps it might be a combination of them misunderstanding the request,
> hitting the wrong key, or not having all the fill data set up on their
> keyboard.
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
>
> > On Nov 8, 2019, at 12:39 PM, N4ZR <n4zr at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > I think most folks use PREC? but if the guy on the other end says "?" I
> try "NR?" in hope that he will concatenate number and precedence, and if
> necessary, "AGN PSE". But I agree, not everyone gets it.
> >
> > 73, Pete N4ZR
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> > On 11/8/2019 12:27 PM, john at kk9a.com wrote:
> >>
> >> What it the best way to ask for a repeat of someone's precedence in SS
> CW? For me this is the most difficult part of the exchange to get sent
> again. Often I get the section is repeated instead and I have to ask again
> in a different way or sometimes the whole report is sent again which at
> least resolves the issue. In a few cases the calling station simply
> disappeared after my query and I had to wipe them from my log.
> >>
> >> John W4AAA (KK9A,op)
> >>
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