[CQ-Contest] The legacy of not working dupes

Richard F. DiDonna NN3W richnn3w at gmail.com
Tue Jan 7 09:22:56 EST 2020


As a general rule, I always work dupes.  I have one and only one 
exception: if I have a significant pile (i.e., 3 callers+)  in 
Sweepstakes, I will call out dupe if I am pretty certain I've worked 
someone before.  The chances of losing one of the other two remaining 
stations is too great to risk - given that this is a work a station once 
per contest event and casual ops are very fickle in Sweeps.

73 Rich NN3W

On 1/7/2020 12:14 AM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
> The "no dupes" came from the fact that it was very difficult to weed the dupes out of the logs back before computerized logging.  So "loading up on dupes" was a way of "padding the log" and was penalized early on in the score keeping.  Today the reverse is true.
>
> The days of sending with one hand and paper logging and dupe sheeting with the other are long gone too.
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces+edwards=sbelectronics.com at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Blaine
> Sent: Monday, January 6, 2020 9:55 PM
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] The legacy of not working dupes
>
> It was pretty funny Mike.  But unfortunately in a "watch me shoot my
> foot" sort of way.  I got into contesting way too late and missed
> whatever it was that drove the no-dupes obsession back in the day.  Must
> have had something to do with paper logging or labor or something like
> that.  I'm sure there was a good reason the practice got started.
> Clearly that original momentum has plenty of legs even now when it seems
> the no-dupe thing is actually bad for biz.
>
> 73/jeff/ac0c
> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
> www.ac0c.com
>
>
> On 1/6/20 6:17 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
>> Jeff,
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>> Like you, I always work dupes.  I work very little RTTY, but in the bigger
>> CW contests, there always seem to be a very small # of EU's that will work
>> me 2, 3 or even 7 times.  I can only surmise they trawl up and down the
>> bottom end of 20m working the stronger NA stations to 'help them out' in the
>> contest and are probably are not using a logging program.  I had to tell one
>> guy one time after the 5th or 6th QSO in an hour or so "No more!"
>>
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>> I loved the "don't think so" you got. I found that very funny (and very sad
>> at the same time) (if that makes sense.)
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>> That'd be a new one on me.  Mike VE9AA
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>> "..I was S&P and called a guy that had apparently worked me - but was not in
>> my log.  I got the "BEFORE" reply which I get a few times each contest and
>> for that case, I have a short macro that says "NIL - plz work again".  And
>> to my complete amazement the guy sent a reply - apparently typed by hand as
>> the pace was a bit slower than normal macro exchange speed - "dont think
>> so."   Wow, never had someone tell me that.   So the net result of this is
>> he lost a point because he's not in my log and that will pop in the cross
>> check. And we must have wasted a minute or two doing the dance.  Good move
>> all around, OM! .."
>>
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>>
>> alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
>>
>> www.ac0c.com
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>> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>>
>> Keswick Ridge, NB
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