[CQ-Contest] [PVRC] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns

[Barry W2UP]

59K would be confusing in ARRL DX.  It would also be confusing among the
cut numbers crowd.

What would also be helpful is ARRL doing honest reviews of equipment and
not sugar coating them all to not alienate their advertisers.

Barry W2UP

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:27 PM <donovanf at starpower.net> wrote:

> What a great idea Doug!
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> What a concept: contesters help to solve our own problems!
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> Contest logging software developers could enable use of a "59K"
> signal report. I don't think contest sponsors need to do anything at all
> except enforce their rules, or in the case of ARRL create a new
> unnecessary bandwidth rule which IMHO is long overdue
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> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Doug via PVRC" <pvrc at mailman.qth.net>
> To: pvrc at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 7:43:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [PVRC] [CQ-Contest] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns
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> Regarding Contest Organizers paying attention to signal quality issues,
> perhaps we can do something on our own:
> if instead of sending 5NN to a station with offending key clicks, we could
> send 5N8. The offender will not get credit for the QSO unless he enters 5N8
> in his log, right? If enough people do this , the offender will modify his
> contest behavior, I am certain.
> It would only be fair to advertise this signal report modification in
> advance of a contest to allow an opportunity for compliance before a
> contest.
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> 73, Doug AA3S
> On 6/6/2020 3:14 PM, Frank W3LPL via PVRC wrote:
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> Hi Rob,
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> As far as I'm aware, ARRL is completely silent when it comes to
> excessive bandwidth signals by participants in their contests.
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> CQWW contest directors talk a good game, but its not clear that they
> actually enforce their excessive bandwidth rules. Perhaps they do...
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> For example, from the CQWW DX and WPX contest rules:
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> 5. Signals with excessive bandwidth (e.g., splatter, clicks) or harmonics
> on other bands
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> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Rob Sherwood." <rob at nc0b.com>
> To: donovanf at starpower.net
> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:58:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns
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> Hi Frank,
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> I had no idea contest directors paid attention to any signal quality
> issues.
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> Rob
> NC0B
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> Sent from my iPad
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> <blockquote>
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 12:37 PM, "donovanf at starpower.net" <
> donovanf at starpower.net> wrote:
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> That's an excellent step forward Bud. There's no excuse for intentional
> key clicks but that's exactly the place where the Japanese manufacturers
> have intentionally put us in 2020.
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> The current generation of Japanese transceivers are making key click
> problems much worse than before. Our only hope is that contest
> sponsors improve their rules and enforce them against contesters
> taking advantage of the fast CW rise time menu options in their radios.
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> Manufacturers are completely irresponsible with their 4 millisecond
> default CW rise times and egregiously irresponsible with menus
> options that allow users to select 1 and 2 millisecond rise times.
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> Kenwood and Yaesu provide completely unacceptable 1 and 2
> millisecond rise time menu options and Icom is almost as bad with
> their 2 millisecond menu option.
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> Why are ARRL and the U.S. distributors not communicating with our
> Japanese equipment manufacturers about the problems they're causing
> and enabling?
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> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "cqwpx director" <cqwpx.director at gmail.com>
> To: cq-contest at contesting.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 4:58:15 PM
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns
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> I have received two (2) actionable complaints of signal quality issues
> during WPX CW, which are both under review.
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> We will investigate additional signal quality concerns. Please provide the
> call to be reviewed, along with the date, time and band of the observed
> signal quality issue.
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> 73,
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> Bud Trench, AA3B
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> Director, CQ WPX Contest
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> web: <https://cqwpx.com> https://cqwpx.com
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> email: <mailto:director at cqwpx.com> director at cqwpx.com
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