[CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting

rjairam at gmail.com rjairam at gmail.com
Wed Mar 11 13:28:26 EDT 2020


Ed,

Allow me to play devil’s advocate:

“ However, if you look at the activity generated on the facebook page - a
couple of million hits since early January (bravo Ray) - its hard for me to
rationalize that there is not a direct pick up of Qs based on this parallel
activity.  Casuals, which are a huge part of running up the Q totals in any
major DX contest, may be listening to the channel and say, I wonder how
loud I am verses these other guys Ray is working.  And look up on the
cluster to find Ray's frequency and give a call to hear themselves.  That
is exactly "soliciting a contact by non-amateur means".  Not overtly - like
give me a call if you are watching - but by "advertising" and letting the
rest happen on its own.”


As many know I have a pretty significant presence on social media. Many
will look for me specifically in the contest and work me because they know
me on social media.

Is the problem with this sort of operation that someone is popular outside
of amateur radio? Or is it because of that specific contest operation being
popularized on social media?

If it is the latter, I would agree that it should be placed in a separate
category, as it is borderline self-spotting.

But for the former, you cannot penalize someone simply because they are
popular outside of RF on the air during that contest weekend. That to me
wouldn’t be fair.

I really would like to see contest organizers bring back the “sky is the
limit” categories and bring on the arms race but keep it separate from
traditional operating. Things like self spotting, and (a single op or
single team) using remotes on both coasts as well as remote receivers would
be part of this. It would be interesting what kind of scores it would
produce.

73
Ria, N2RJ

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:31 AM Edward Sawyer <EdwardS at sbelectronics.com>
wrote:

> Some of you may not be aware of an interesting and different even that
> happened last weekend.
>
> W2RE of well known RHR fame, decided to not only provide live streaming of
> his contesting effort, but tied it into the activity he has been doing
> since early January which is fully integrating the on air DX activity into
> Facebook and youtube channel streaming.  Ray has done a wonderful job of
> integrating social media with HF on air activity as part of promoting RHR
> and DXing in general.  You cant argue that this benefits the hobby in
> general.
>
> However, the rules of the contest state that "contacts cannot be solicited
> by non-amateur means".  Examples are typically given but those examples are
> not exhaustive.  The intent of the rule, I believe, is that you should have
> people calling you by the normal discovery process that all of us use.  Not
> a special method no one else is using.
>
> Ray, to his credit, was not showing his transmit frequency ion the video.
> And I personally believe there was no intention of using this additional
> channel to gain an advantage.  At all.  However, if you look at the
> activity generated on the facebook page - a couple of million hits since
> early January (bravo Ray) - its hard for me to rationalize that there is
> not a direct pick up of Qs based on this parallel activity.  Casuals, which
> are a huge part of running up the Q totals in any major DX contest, may be
> listening to the channel and say, I wonder how loud I am verses these other
> guys Ray is working.  And look up on the cluster to find Ray's frequency
> and give a call to hear themselves.  That is exactly "soliciting a contact
> by non-amateur means".  Not overtly - like give me a call if you are
> watching - but by "advertising" and letting the rest happen on its own.
>
> I think it is a wonderful idea on its own.  But it does not compete fairly
> with those just playing the game by the rules as intended.
>
> CQ WW used to have an unlimited class, maybe they still do.  Maybe we need
> an unlimited class to promote this "multi channel" contesting.  But mixing
> it up with normal contesting just doesn't feel right to me.
>
> What do others think?
>
> Ed  N1UR
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