[CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting

[donovanf at starpower.net]

I'm surprised at Randy's comment that " it is impossible to measure the impact or harm" 


Unique QSOs in the W2RE log will provide a measure of the impact 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 


----- Original Message -----

From: k5zd at charter.net 
To: "Edward Sawyer" <EdwardS at sbelectronics.com>, cq-contest at contesting.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 3:12:10 PM 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting 

I am in favor of big stations and remote operations. Live streaming so 
others can hear what it sounds like is also good. Promoting ham radio and 
contesting using social media is great (and needed)! 

I share the concerns about when the live PR effort bleeds into soliciting 
activity for the station doing this. The rules are fairly clear that use 
of non-amateur means to solicit contacts is prohibited (written back when 
people would use the telephone to get multipliers on the air). 

In this case, it is impossible to measure the impact or harm. I.e., we 
don't know how much it helped the score or if it would have changed the 
order of finish. Even so, the rules are the rules. It will be up to the 
sponsor to decide where they want to draw the line for their contest. 

Randy K5ZD 


-----Original Message----- 
From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=charter.net at contesting.com> On 
Behalf Of Edward Sawyer 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:56 PM 
To: peter.voelpel at t-online.de; cq-contest at contesting.com 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting 

IF you watch the video, you will see broadcasting of frequency on the 
sidebar chats being displayed - self spotting. Using a chat room. And by 
asking people on line to share the feed with their friends and get on and 
work him - he is soliciting contacts by non-amateur means. 

Ed N1UR 


From: Peter Voelpel [peter.voelpel at t-online.de] On Behalf Of 
dj7ww at t-online.de [dj7ww at t-online.de] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:24 PM 
To: Edward Sawyer; cq-contest at contesting.com 
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting 

Ed, 

what numerous rules violations do you have in mind? 
So far I am not aware of any. 

73 
Peter 

-----Original Message----- 
From: CQ-Contest 
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces+dj7ww=t-online.de at contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
Edward Sawyer 

I would suggest that anyone curious take a listen to the live stream 
recording on YouTube and look at the interaction Ray has with the "live chat 
room" on his website with the contacts being made. 

Asking people to look for him on the Cluster to see where he is. 

Even as an assisted operation, it demonstrates numerous rules violations as 
recorded. 

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