[CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting

[Edward Sawyer]

And to further on what Ria said.  The chat room was giving Ray real time propagation feedback from operators in Europe whether they could hear him or not.  Someone else could have said (although I didn't here this in the segment I was listening to) that he should slide up or down for a better frequency.  The interactive chatroom itself is a clear violation in my opinion.

Ed  N1UR
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting

I think the differences here between announced operations and live social
media during a contest are as follows:

Live social media says “I’m on right now” versus a general announcement
that “l’ll be on this weekend.”

The chat will list frequencies where the operator is operating. The chat is
hosted by the operator.

And the biggest one - the live stream gives real time confirmation that the
contact is good, using non-amateur means. It’s the same as if you were on a
the telephone with a speakerphone in the room and heard them call you back.
No fighting with qsb and QRM, just call in and listen online.

Ria
N2RJ

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:36 AM ku8e <ku8e at ku8e.com> wrote:

> So I guess could you could argue that posting your planned operation on
> something like NG3K is soliciting contacts? You are doing this on the
> internet. Also when someone spots you on the DX Cluster someone else is
> soliciting contacts for you. How many times have you spotted someone on the
> DX cluster who is a friend of yours operating from the islands? I think
> everyone has at some point or another. I really see no harm in doing any of
> this. Same with doing a livestream. I think the intent for those who do
> this is to promote contesting. Personally I don't like or operate SOA but
> it's too late in the game to ban it. You also have to take into
> consideration that many people who operate DX contests aren't really
> hardcore contesters.I'm pretty sure that W2RE's livestream was to promote
> RHR and not to try to get some competitive advantage. JeffSent from my
> Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> -------- Original message --------From: Mike Smith VE9AA <
> ve9aa at nbnet.nb.ca> Date: 3/11/20  6:06 PM  (GMT-05:00) To:
> cq-contest at contesting.com Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media
> and Contesting I am not a lawyer-but pretty sure this is against the rules
> in most contests(soliciting QSO's outside and during the competition)
> Anyways. we should all be asking ourselves what was the motivation
> ofposting this video in real time VS. waiting until after the log
> submittaldeadline!? (ie: If I was DX and thought *MAYBE* I worked W2RE, but
> wasn'tsure, I could always review the video(log scrubbing) (or watch it in
> realtime-cheating; doesn't take place on the air). As for Ray advertising
> for RHR.maybe/maybe not.that doesn't impact directlyon his score per se, so
> I don't care about that. I'm not against Social Media..I'm on there I have
> learned lots about some ofyou and love the interaction between us, but I
> don't think it belongs in aradio COMPETITON/contest.  Shouldn't Radiosport
> events be limited to ON-AIR interactions?  (or is itnow an Internet-Radio
> competition?) Let's review the rules shall we?  Who's up for that? BTW, I
> am all for RHR and what Ray is doing. I understand he's a good guy,doing
> good work, providing a good service for pay.  My comments are strictlyabout
> the competition itself and rules.  MIKE VE9AA Mike, Coreen & CoreyKeswick
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